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ALIN
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I would inject minimum of every 7 days.
TCyp every 10 days for HRT purposes?
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I would inject minimum of every 7 days.
Para_Shoot
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Aren't you going to get "shut down" no matter how much, or how little in your case, test you introduce from outside the body? I mean, 100mg every 10 days is HRT and your going to be shut down again. What are you going for here?
i am as confused as you are.
what i think is that he is saying his test levels were HIGHER before he went on HRT. i dont get why anyone would mess with their hormones unneccesarily but I guess he opened up the can of worms and is now ready to deal with it.
i suggested he find out WHY that was the case before further playing around with his hormones again. i think that is the only solution here.
ArmaniAK47
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Are you serious?
What is wrong with you?
ANY dose of ANY steroid that will be beneficial will shut you down to some extent.. stay on long enough with doses natural or higher and it's going 100% off.
100mgs of week is about natural.. thus, with natural production bumps you to double.. after some time, you adjust to 0 production, but stay "natural" in terms of gains because of your choice to be at that level..
Why would you ever want to shut yourself down for anything LESS than natural? Are you daft?
If you don't want to be shut down use anavar for like 6 weeks then do a pct...
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
My doc recommended 100mg of test each week when I am not uber-juicing.
I get totally off when I am done with my major cycles. I always stick to 400mg doses of test. I am throwing in 200mg of deca now. After my PCT my levels are always midrange which is nice. I recover quickly and despite being 37 having test in the middle of the acceptable range is good for me.
I know the feeling of wanting to be on though! I am enjoying life right now.
My recommendation is to get blood tests done and do the trial and error thing. I've played around with my PCT in the past and my current protocol was due to trial and error. For example, I have found that 250ius of HCG M/Th during cycle, then 1000ius for two weeks M/Th after cycle, followed by clomid for 30 days after my last test shot really gets me going (I use supplements too).
Getting tested while on 100mg can be tricky though because your levels will change each day as the test wears out. Make sure you test yourself on the same day, and early in the morning (natty test production is highest in the morning). For example if you inject 100mg every 10 days test it on the last day before your next shot. Do the same for the next time, e.g. if you got for 7 days test on the last day etc.
Good luck and keep us posted.
I get totally off when I am done with my major cycles. I always stick to 400mg doses of test. I am throwing in 200mg of deca now. After my PCT my levels are always midrange which is nice. I recover quickly and despite being 37 having test in the middle of the acceptable range is good for me.
I know the feeling of wanting to be on though! I am enjoying life right now.
My recommendation is to get blood tests done and do the trial and error thing. I've played around with my PCT in the past and my current protocol was due to trial and error. For example, I have found that 250ius of HCG M/Th during cycle, then 1000ius for two weeks M/Th after cycle, followed by clomid for 30 days after my last test shot really gets me going (I use supplements too).
Getting tested while on 100mg can be tricky though because your levels will change each day as the test wears out. Make sure you test yourself on the same day, and early in the morning (natty test production is highest in the morning). For example if you inject 100mg every 10 days test it on the last day before your next shot. Do the same for the next time, e.g. if you got for 7 days test on the last day etc.
Good luck and keep us posted.
I guess Im not explaining correctly. What Im shooting for is a higher range that still in the normal range. Is this possible without getting shut down or does it simply not matter what my levels are naturally, if any test is done i will get shut down no matter what i use such as hcg etc?
If it seems that no matter what im going to eventually get shut down then i can play this game of go on, get shut down, come off, get back to normal, repeat. As long as there is no permanent damage.
If it seems that no matter what im going to eventually get shut down then i can play this game of go on, get shut down, come off, get back to normal, repeat. As long as there is no permanent damage.
digit0x
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Permanent damage is always a risk. Keeping your doses lower and length of cycles shorter reduces long term impact on the body, at the cost of gains.
Your body has an equilibrium level of test. When exogenous is introduced endogenous will compensate slowly to achieve the equilibrium. Because natural test production is low relative to what most people choose to dose the body stops testosterone production all together and does not resume until you dip below the equilibrium. It is a slow process to get back to normal.
Don't get a subscription for testosterone replacement unless its your last option.
I agree. i dont remember how old you are but you have a chance to recover and cycle.. worry about HRT when you get older. for now let your body make its own test.
keep cycles short and the landings will be short. make sure you run PCT's. there are some good natty supps that can make PCT and recovery not bad. yeah you will lose SOME strength and size during this time, but if you run a good cycle you will keep most of your gains.
keep cycles short and the landings will be short. make sure you run PCT's. there are some good natty supps that can make PCT and recovery not bad. yeah you will lose SOME strength and size during this time, but if you run a good cycle you will keep most of your gains.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
Even small doses of test will shut you down. Period.
The longer you stay on the greater the likelihood you will cause permanent damage.
That is why it is necessary to get totally off and let your body naturally recover. Doing 'bridges' or HRT maintenance doses, or whatever someone calls it, shuts you down. Doing a cycle shuts you down. Doing both shuts you down for a long time.
I think you got on HRT unnecessarily and i think its a blessing this happened to you so you didn't stay on longer. you want to stay on the upper end of the range? no one can tell the difference between being on middle of the range and the higher end of the range. re-evaluate your own life if you are feeling down, a higher test level will not make a difference... now a level at 1500+ then yeah you will 'feel' it.. that is what bros feel on cycle running 500mg test per week and it feels good and makes us monsters in the gym.
and a higher test level doesn't ensure you will have bulging muscles, it just helps your body go into a anabolic environment.. I just got down with my PCT and now I am bridging between cycles. my total test levels are probably somewhere between 150-200 only. they were 119 a month ago and 98 a month before that right after my cycle during the shut down stage. and I am STILL able to get in fantastic workouts thanks to natty supps.
and a higher test level doesn't ensure you will have bulging muscles, it just helps your body go into a anabolic environment.. I just got down with my PCT and now I am bridging between cycles. my total test levels are probably somewhere between 150-200 only. they were 119 a month ago and 98 a month before that right after my cycle during the shut down stage. and I am STILL able to get in fantastic workouts thanks to natty supps.
