Shin Pumps on Turanabol?

[big_aug]

Has anyone experienced extreme shin pumps using oral Turanabol? I've read of people experiencing this with Dbol, but I haven't seen much on turanabol.

I've experienced shin pumps in the past, but I'm currently running Tbol at 60mg/day and when I run even just a little, I get pain. If I run, for say, 5 minutes or more the pain is so bad that I can't move.

Is there anything that can be done to help with this?

 

[DieselGunz]

How long have you been on? what brand OT?

 

[big_aug]

How long have you been on? what brand OT?

I'm coming up ont he end of my 2nd week. I'm using British Dragon brand. Taking two 10mg tabs three times daily. I'm almost positive that everything is legit as I got it from a very high recommended/respected source.

 

[DieselGunz]

I'm coming up ont he end of my 2nd week. I'm using British Dragon brand. Taking two 10mg tabs three times daily. I'm almost positive that everything is legit as I got it from a very high recommended/respected source.

sounds good there, proper dosage and all. In all the time I have read about OT I have never heard of this.


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[JohnRambo]

Can anyone explain me what shin pumps are? Ive used tbol many times and might come in handy with my experience if I know what you are talking about

 

[Retabolil2]

Why all people may think of comes to anabolics? There is no other way to explain it? Tbol has nothing to do with it I believe. Try to eat few bananas a day and it will go away or maybe you did fee extra reps for the shins?
Dbol gives that feeling sometimes but mainly to newbies and at high dosages.

 

[jmt24]

my friend got back pumps from tbol, something i thought wasn't supposed to happen. i didnt have any sideaffects. everyone is diff. maybe lower the dose to 50mg ed

 

[BOWTECH]

I have run BD tbol numerous times and NO sides at all. And I was running 60mgs/day. Trust me increase your water intake. Minimum 1 -1 1/2 gals a day this will help you.

 

[blut wump]

Make a big effort to stretch out your calves. Stretching out your calves takes tension away from your shins and can ease the discomfort.

 

[KD1]

Sounds like shin splints to me. Time to ice em down and load up on ibuprofin.

 

[big_aug]

I thought it was just shin splints as well. However, the pain has gone up dramatically in the last week. It could just be placebo. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it. I don't want to go straight to blaming the anabolics, but the tbol was the only variable that I recently introduced into my body. I eat a banana with every main meal, and get plenty of water.

If no one else has ever had any problems, it could just be in my mind. Thanks for the replies guys.

 

[KD1]

The way I understand it, shin splints are caused by the inflamed muscle tearing at your shins, literally pulling the bone off your shin.

You said the pain went up dramatically, perhaps the increased strength caused by the tbol has exacerated the progress of your shin splint development.

Do your shins hurt when you massage them? If its just pumps, they should feel fine Bad shin splints will feel painfull just rubbing them with your hands because of the damage to them.

 

[tzan]

Make a big effort to stretch out your calves. Stretching out your calves takes tension away from your shins and can ease the discomfort.

Best response.......I used to get shin splints when I ran until I really made it a point to make sure my calves where fully stretched.

 

[Baker35]

I thought it was just shin splints as well. However, the pain has gone up dramatically in the last week. It could just be placebo. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it. I don't want to go straight to blaming the anabolics, but the tbol was the only variable that I recently introduced into my body. I eat a banana with every main meal, and get plenty of water.

If no one else has ever had any problems, it could just be in my mind. Thanks for the replies guys.

I've never been on the juice but I did get shin pumps from taking superdrol. I run quite a bit for cardio and I ran during my superdrol cycle. My shins were killing me. It was not shin splints because the pain went away after my run. I also was eating bananas and taking L-Taurine to guard against back pumps. I did'nt get back pumps but my shins got pumped.

 

[UrlMighty]

I got shin splints and back pumps from BD tbol. If not for the fact that it seemed milder than dbol and didn't give me sensitive nips I'd still be suspecting that it was dbol. I tried ot twice but the aches annoyed me, I couldn't even go for a long walk after about a week. I supplemented with cranberry extract, milk thistle, taurine, and even ate bananas but nothing helped. It went away after I stopped taking the tbol.

I can't remember for sure anymore but I think I was taking 40 or 50mg ed. I also tried it with anavar at 30/30 and with creatine but that was a disaster. I got the same aches and blew up and stopped after two weeks. I expect some bloat from creatine but this was too much. Maybe the batch I had was tainted with dbol.

 

[zips92]

A lot of good responses from bros on here trying to help, that's what's great about this site.

I can reiterate what several have said........I have cycled BD Oral Turanibol three times (at 40 mg ED) and have never experienced OT pumps in shins or anywhere else that I can recall. Bananas, increased water intake, ibuprofen, taurine, stretching, they all sound good, especially the additional water intake. I have never heard that a direct side effect of OT is shin pumps when running, but certainly not dismissing, I learn something new every week about AAS.

Are you possibly taking any NO supplements or inject B12 along with the OT, or some other over the counter product prior to running? I have experienced pumps with NO-Xplode so bad for minor muscle groups that I had to stop my workout.

 

[KD1]

When I take gear, I stop taking creatine and NO products or the leg pumps I get make it too difficult to run. I havent run TBol yet, but plan to run it next month.

 

[big_aug]

Thanks for all the responses guys. I'll give everything a shot. I'll try gettting some more bananas and even more water. I'll be sure to stretch my calves extra before doing my running.

I haven't been using any other supplements while on the OT. What I am experiencing is muscle pain. The pain subsides after I stop moving for a while, and I can put pressure on my shin (as in the bone) and it doesn't bother me.

If nothing works, its not a big deal. I only do cardio/running 3 times weekly to try and keep some of the fat off while I'm bulking. I can deal with the pain for 45min or so 3 times weekly.

Again, thanks for the replies and attempts at help. Thats why I love this board.

 

[blut wump]

Don't forget to report back if anything helps.

 

[surferstar]

I got mild shin splints on OT 50mg day. but i don't think is was shin splints it was more of shin pumps. if that makes any sense. I bartend and serve so im on my feet all day and it seems to just pump up more than give actual splints. I know very well of shin splints from soccer and this was a different. It went away after a week i think my shins just got used to it and didn't pump as much. I was only on OT for only about 2 weeks. It was ok, not impressive. However OT did help me drop 2% bf during that time. Also I started streching them and my calves out everyday and that help tremendously. Whenever it'd start to pump, I just stretched them out and they went away for a little bit. Best of luck bro.

 

[big_aug]

Just wanted to toss an update in here for anyone who cared. Last week was my final week of OT. I'm pretty positive the OT had absolutely nothing to do with my shin pumps. I did extensive testing on myself to see what actually hurt. It seems only jogging, slowing when sprinting, and change of direction things. Doing sprints at maximum speed causes no pain.

I'm going to be taking a couple weeks off from running/cardio and see if they get better. If not, then its to the doc I go.

 

[KD1]

Sounds like shin splints.

 

[d_o_c_]

Not shin splints. I get the same thing. When on Tbol ( So far only with BD ) I can't run because the blood pump in my shin and calves is ridiculous.

I tried bananas and what not. Figure I'm just prone to it.

 

[Jayhawk21]

I too got mild shin pumps if I ran on OT as well. I got some mild back pumps by the end of week 4 when I would do heavy squats deads etc. I was on 50 mg ED

 

[BrothaBill]

Shin pumps can occur with anabolic steroids b/c of the pumps that are noticed when working other body parts happen to the muscle in the front of the leg. This is different than shin splints.
Its where the muscle becomes "pumped" up with pulling the toe upwards as you stride. That causes blood to fill the muscle which is already growing or larger because of the anabolic effects of the steroids.
What that does is the muscle becomes larger than the fascia surrounding it can hold. There is pressure that builds up in the fascia (tissue surround muscle) and this prevents proper blood flow, both getting blood to the engorged muscle but also just as important not allowing waste products to properly be carried away.
This causes ischemic pain and most will not be able to run once it happens.

This is different than shin splints although people confuse it b/c everyone has heard of shin splints.
Its properly termed "anterior compartment syndrome"
THe anterior compartment of the lower leg. Think of the muscles in the front of your legs and as sausage in its casing. If the casing is the fascia, if the muscle within expands the pressure goes up and reduces blood flow. It is very painful.

Hopefully it will go away once you dont take anabolics but it can remain. The first course is not to run for a few months and then see if it is better after being clean.
There is not effective treatments such as stretching to resolve this although stretching is never a bad idea but sports massage is recommended to help loosen up the fascia sheath.
The treatment is a fasciotomy or basically splitting the sausage casing to reduce the pressure that builds up.
You can see a sports medicine physician and have the pressure tested inside of the fascia while on a treadmill to determine if that is the case.