Sarms does not work for everyone

[rospina]

I've been training MMA for nearly 4 years now, and I can assure you that strength training (heavy weight training, 5 reps and under) is absolutely necessary for the sport. It increases raw strength and power, especially the deadlift (hip strength). Bodyweight exercises are good for assistance exercises, or to be performed when you are closer to a fight (to avoid overtraining from heavy weight lifting). The main reason you saw no effects, is because you did not stimulate or overload your skeletal muscle and your central nervous system enough, which is done through heavy lifting, olympic power lifting, and plyometrics. Anybody with a kinesiology background (i have a M.S. in kinesiology) knows that heavy weight lifting is necessary for increased motor unit recruitment which leads to increased strength. I have also tested s4, and placebo effect or not, my deadlift jumped from 285 to 320 in one cycle. I kept the dosage at about 50-60 mg per day. If done correctly you will not gain weight, I stayed at 160, didn't gain or lose any weight other than a lb here and there.

Not trying to argue with you, just suggesting that you may not have trained adequately. Check out Chaimberg (GSP's strength coach), and the stuff he has his athletes do. Martin Rooney is another badass strength coach (trains Dan and Jim Miller, Renzo, and many more), and he also uses weight lifting/strength training. I figure why not do what the best in the world are doing.
Sorry for such a lengthy message.

 

[ChemWiz]

I've been training MMA for nearly 4 years now, and I can assure you that strength training (heavy weight training, 5 reps and under) is absolutely necessary for the sport. It increases raw strength and power, especially the deadlift (hip strength). Bodyweight exercises are good for assistance exercises, or to be performed when you are closer to a fight (to avoid overtraining from heavy weight lifting). The main reason you saw no effects, is because you did not stimulate or overload your skeletal muscle and your central nervous system enough, which is done through heavy lifting, olympic power lifting, and plyometrics. Anybody with a kinesiology background (i have a M.S. in kinesiology) knows that heavy weight lifting is necessary for increased motor unit recruitment which leads to increased strength. I have also tested s4, and placebo effect or not, my deadlift jumped from 285 to 320 in one cycle. I kept the dosage at about 50-60 mg per day. If done correctly you will not gain weight, I stayed at 160, didn't gain or lose any weight other than a lb here and there.

Not trying to argue with you, just suggesting that you may not have trained adequately. Check out Chaimberg (GSP's strength coach), and the stuff he has his athletes do. Martin Rooney is another badass strength coach (trains Dan and Jim Miller, Renzo, and many more), and he also uses weight lifting/strength training. I figure why not do what the best in the world are doing.
Sorry for such a lengthy message.

Well said......I have had at least 8 of the guys that I train with use sarms. Yet to hear of a non responder. I have also had friends that have done full on cycles, ate like shit and didnt train and complained about their results. You get what you put in.

 

[RADAR]

I've been training MMA for nearly 4 years now, and I can assure you that strength training (heavy weight training, 5 reps and under) is absolutely necessary for the sport. It increases raw strength and power, especially the deadlift (hip strength). Bodyweight exercises are good for assistance exercises, or to be performed when you are closer to a fight (to avoid overtraining from heavy weight lifting). The main reason you saw no effects, is because you did not stimulate or overload your skeletal muscle and your central nervous system enough, which is done through heavy lifting, olympic power lifting, and plyometrics. Anybody with a kinesiology background (i have a M.S. in kinesiology) knows that heavy weight lifting is necessary for increased motor unit recruitment which leads to increased strength. I have also tested s4, and placebo effect or not, my deadlift jumped from 285 to 320 in one cycle. I kept the dosage at about 50-60 mg per day. If done correctly you will not gain weight, I stayed at 160, didn't gain or lose any weight other than a lb here and there.

Not trying to argue with you, just suggesting that you may not have trained adequately. Check out Chaimberg (GSP's strength coach), and the stuff he has his athletes do. Martin Rooney is another badass strength coach (trains Dan and Jim Miller, Renzo, and many more), and he also uses weight lifting/strength training. I figure why not do what the best in the world are doing.
Sorry for such a lengthy message.

even if he didn't do that ,he should have still lost some underlying fat in areas that you don't normally loose fat!

 

[at(almost)ANYcost]

Well said......I have had at least 8 of the guys that I train with use sarms. Yet to hear of a non responder. I have also had friends that have done full on cycles, ate like shit and didnt train and complained about their results. You get what you put in.

I'm also going to run SARMSSEARCH OSTA as a standalone for PCT, but my couple months of experience with it thus far have been obvious and very enjoyable. I have to say that I am quite frankly the MOST SEVERE non-responder to supplements.