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Jpmwell

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Hey guys, gonna ask a question you will all probably be sick of hearing but i want opinions for myself. Now I've debated with people for a while now and I've always stood by protein shakes and powders, but lately more and more people i speak to are saying that they've read somewhere that protein powders don't really do anything....anyone got any opinions on this as i know protein itself helps.
...but I'm looking to find out if I'm practically throwing my money away buying and trying new more expensive types or am i best to get protein from my diet?
Thanks for reading guys
 
If you get eat 200 grams of protein in a day then you don't need it if your budget doesn't allow but I highly doubt you can consume that much with out excess calories and fat, I wouldn't recommend more than three shakes a day. One always after a workout as whey isolate absorbs the fastest
 
I dunno how to calculate how much protein i should be taking in, but I've slightly altered my training to become more athletic and leaner rather than bulky and large as I'm running cycling most nights playing football (soccer) every week, so is the protein intake as big a part of my diet as it would be if i were lifting weights to gain mass?
 
Thanks guys, gonna try out syntha 6 isolate and see how i get on with that product..if anyone has any suggestiomg or reccomendations they are welcome
 
Syntha is one of the best tasting proteins in my opinion, it is pricey but good for someone that wants to get back in the game. Another good protein is 100% whey by ON good taste and cheap
 
You know ive heard so many good reviews about ON 100% whey i may read up on both and decide which i like the sound of more. Thanks for te info and advice guys
 
Of course man that's why we are here, my .2 cents is if you want taste then go with syntha if you want budget go with ON either is a good decision
 
I picked the 4lb tub of syntha isolate, costs me ÂŁ45.99...which is funnily enough ÂŁ5 cheaper than the ON, but the ON has 1lb more in the tub...however i based my buy on a few buyer reviews stating syntha is good also for cutting which i really like, i appreciate the help it narrowed my search a lot and i found syntha thanks dude
 
Hey guys, gonna ask a question you will all probably be sick of hearing but i want opinions for myself. Now I've debated with people for a while now and I've always stood by protein shakes and powders, but lately more and more people i speak to are saying that they've read somewhere that protein powders don't really do anything....anyone got any opinions on this as i know protein itself helps.
...but I'm looking to find out if I'm practically throwing my money away buying and trying new more expensive types or am i best to get protein from my diet?
Thanks for reading guys

I find it very useful for my situation and lifestyle and I digest whey isolate extremely well.
 
I find it very useful for my situation and lifestyle and I digest whey isolate extremely well.

I agree anytime i have used protein shakes i notice improvement, but i wasnt sure if that was because i also improve my diet round about the time i get myself back into shape and buy protein and train hard again. The amount id need to spend on food to make up for a lack of protein shakes is probably the same and the shakes are easier, definitely the quicker option in my opinion.
 
If your trying to get cut without getting huge, I would think protein would be very important. Somebody trying to get huge should just eat everything in sight, but if your want to stay lean you have to be picky.
 
I'll keep that in mind, something i didnt know...i had always thought when cutting and getting lean meant cutting down on portions of everything but i will keep my protein intake up
 
Try and get lots of protein from natural sources, but it can be hard to get enough just through eating. Protein drinks are great way to help, especially if your in the hurry to get out the house or something.
 
It all depends on goals in terms of the effects of powders but i assure they are highly effective... Of course you dont ever want to be dependent upon them but they definitely have a good place in your diet and can be very beneficial... Keep in mind that there is a big difference in quality out there... There are different types that perform in different ways as well... Companies like ON make a very low quality powder... You tend to get what you pay for... Keep all this in mind... Isolates are the best right after a workout... Casein before bed and whey concentrate works well for meal replacement... They all serve a purpose and if utilized properly, are very effective...
 
It all depends on goals in terms of the effects of powders but i assure they are highly effective... Of course you dont ever want to be dependent upon them but they definitely have a good place in your diet and can be very beneficial... Keep in mind that there is a big difference in quality out there... There are different types that perform in different ways as well... Companies like ON make a very low quality powder... You tend to get what you pay for... Keep all this in mind... Isolates are the best right after a workout... Casein before bed and whey concentrate works well for meal replacement... They all serve a purpose and if utilized properly, are very effective...

ON might not be the highest quality but atleast its been tested 3rd party to show it has 80-90% of the protein it claims to have. Most companies are under 50% of what's claimed.

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ON might not be the highest quality but atleast its been tested 3rd party to show it has 80-90% of the protein it claims to have. Most companies are under 50% of what's claimed.

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Hmmm then how would they still be in business without rectifying the problem? They would be sued and not just with civil penalties... Criminal false advertisement is present as well so without correction after such a violation there would be no such companies
 
I had a friend throughout college. He was retarded... He called himself "All Natural" because he did not take protein powders. He was Lithuanian and a lot stronger then me with his genetic build.

Difference was He prolly ate 85 grams of protein a day and never had a shake.

I had about 180 grams of protein a day including 2 shakes and I outgrew him within the 1st year of knowing him, haha. Protein is a staple. Without it you won't ever grow or repair your muscles.

Get some Whey or Whey Isolate without a doubt. Casein is great to.

A few I reccomend our nublend 7, n2bm whey, n2matrix and n2bulk.

-Hoss
 
As we should know by now , the main amino acid which controls protein sythesis in skeletal muscle is leucine....

Well for those that didn't know
Leucine stimulates mTOR and muscle protein synthesis in both animal and human

The main things one need to build muscle from a workout are insulin, igf-1 and leucine.
The other amino acids are going to be oxidized or metabolized in the liver as the document explains.
So saying one should eat X amount of protein per day is simply incorrect. I would use a good bcaa + carb drink pre / intra / post workout
And follow healthy dietary recommendations after which.
 
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/protein_size_&_frequency.pdf

ABC Bodybuilding
Optimal Protein
Meal
Size & Frequency
1
Protein: how much and how often?
Layne Norton, BS Biochemistry, PhD candidate
Published:
January 2009


To find the optimal level of protein intake at a meal we must determine what the
optimal level of protein at a meal for stimulating muscle protein synthesis is. It appears
that maximizing skeletal muscle protein synthesis requires
approximately
~15g of
essential
amino acids
1,
2
.
It has been postulated that the amino acid leucine is responsible for the
stimulatory effect of dietary protein on protein synthesis
3
and 15g of essential amino acids
would contain 3.2g of leucine.
Thus
,
in order to determine how much protein from a specific
source is required to elicit the maximal response it may be useful to
also calculate howv much leucine is contained in the source.
One could then determine how much of the source
must be consumed in order to reach the leucine threshold. For example,
whey protein is
approximately 12% leucine
;
therefore
,
about 27g of
whey
protein would need to be
consumed to reach the threshold for maximal anabolism, whereas a source like chicken,
which has a protein content of about 7.5% leucine would require 43g of p
rotein to reach the
leucine threshold required for maximal stimulation
(Table 1
.
).
So it appears that the
maximum benefit level for protein at a meal varies dependi
ng upon the source of protein.
It
is important to note that most of these studies were done
on individuals who weighed
approxi
mately 155
-
165 lbs on average.
So if you weigh less than this you might want to
aim for the lower end of the threshold
;
whereas
,
if you weigh more you may want to aim for
the higher end of the threshold.
amino acids
1,
2
.
 
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Theres so many to choose from its so difficult to decide, is there any brand everyone has a common ground on agreeing is good and effective? Obviously everyone has there preference. I'll need to invest in some casein also..my goal is to lean up stay the same size but cut in a lot, i do a lot of cardio so the cutting part wont be hard its finding the balance and not burning muscle which is tricky for me although i do lift as well, i want to get back to my strength (maybe not as strong as before) without getting too big
 
IMO and I think some one will agree with me if you are getting into taking protein do yourself and your wallet a favor pick a protein you heard the most about and seem to like/trust... everyone hear basically gave you there protein of choice lol as a newb it can be overwhelming but stick to the basics whey protein, isolate or concentrate just get one don't worry about casein for now (eat cottage cheese before bed almost all casein protein) as I have said before my list is price=100% ON whey.... Taste and mix ability= syntha 6..., the choice is yours bud
 
Thanks mate, i think when the time to buy some more comes im gonna have to try out ON 100% it also had loads of positive reviews on the site i checked so all those people cant be wrong..right?
 
IMO and I think some one will agree with me if you are getting into taking protein do yourself and your wallet a favor pick a protein you heard the most about and seem to like/trust... everyone hear basically gave you there protein of choice lol as a newb it can be overwhelming but stick to the basics whey protein, isolate or concentrate just get one don't worry about casein for now (eat cottage cheese before bed almost all casein protein) as I have said before my list is price=100% ON whey.... Taste and mix ability= syntha 6..., the choice is yours bud

You do understand that cottage cheese is LOADED with sodium so eating it before bed is not exactly what i would recommending to people
 
Then don't eat it.. I was just stating if you want to get casein before bed I think casein is over rated especially a newb, he just got the idea of spending 50$ on whey protein now people want him to spend another 30-50$ I know I wouldn't of done that when I started back in the day... Also they make low sodium cottage cheese just taste even more awful
 
Dylan what would you recommend As lean protien meal before bed? Iv been doing like 4 egg whites, 2tblespoon cottage cheese( which now I kno not to do!) and some berries(strawberry and blueberries)
 
Dylan what would you recommend As lean protien meal before bed? Iv been doing like 4 egg whites, 2tblespoon cottage cheese( which now I kno not to do!) and some berries(strawberry and blueberries)

I have six egg whites, oatfit sugarless oatmeal and protein powder... What i do is hard boil the eggs... Then i pop out the yolk... I sprinkle them with protein powder and heat them... Then i fill them with oatmeal
 
Then don't eat it.. I was just stating if you want to get casein before bed I think casein is over rated especially a newb, he just got the idea of spending 50$ on whey protein now people want him to spend another 30-50$ I know I wouldn't of done that when I started back in the day... Also they make low sodium cottage cheese just taste even more awful

That depends on the quality of the casein but there are a few that are excellent... Ive been using it for many years and it is not overrated... There are other options for food but i think casein is under utilized if anything... As i said, it depends on the quality...
 
Okay deff trying that with pro powder in my egg whites... However...carbs before bed??? Really?

Do a little research on oatmeal before bed... Its not a lot of carbs unless your overeating... One sugar free packet... Do the research... Ive been doing it for years and its working...
 
Okay deff trying that with pro powder in my egg whites... However...carbs before bed??? Really?

Do a little research on oatmeal before bed... Its not a lot of carbs unless your overeating... One sugar free packet... Do the research... Ive been doing it for years and its working...
 
I never mess with any protein that says whey protein concentrate or any other "concentrate" source protein. Concentrate means that the product only contain 35% to 80% source protein. In other words you have no idea what you are buying...

I always buy products which are isolate proteins meaning that they are at least 90% source protein

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