Pre-juice 5x5: Darkness on the Horizon

[Guinness5.0]

you dont really need shit besides a squat rack puss

See, that's not the problem. The weight room is small. The school is big (25,000 enrolled). I guaran-fucking-promise I'll have to ask someone to do their curls outside of the power rack every time I go in there. Plus the freeweights and machines are in different rooms, which means no girls to ogle between sets (though I'm getting used to that thanks to the gym I'm at now).

And on the school's website they say there's a 'powerlifting room' which I was very excited to check out. It was a HUGE letdown. It had a bench, squat rack, power rack and a bunch of Hammer Strength stuff

Looks like I'll be an early a.m. lifter for sure.

 

[Cynical Simian]

On an unrelated note, I went to the school I'm about to attend (Northern Illinois University) and the weight room SUCKS! I'm gonna lift there tomorrow after I register and see if I feel differently.

The once-mentioned "return to higher education"...I'd been wondering what was happening with this. What sort of program are you entering?

If the weight room's patrons are anything like the gym itself, you'll probably feel/look like one of those questionably aged Little League World Series players. Try not to scare the curlers too much on your first day.

 

[Guinness5.0]

The once-mentioned "return to higher education"...I'd been wondering what was happening with this. What sort of program are you entering?

If the weight room's patrons are anything like the gym itself, you'll probably feel/look like one of those questionably aged Little League World Series players. Try not to scare the curlers too much on your first day.

LOL bud. But I don't look like a creepy old man just yet. I'm starting to act like one though...especially with the test in me. I catch myself staring and not caring quite often these days

I'll be a finance major. Another irritation from today was how differently the various core requirements are set up - I had nearly all of my non-major classes done at my old school, but here I have to take a bunch of useless bullshit classes b/c I have more than enough credit hours in some areas and not enough in others. It's gonna add at least another full semester to this.

EDIT: THe school I was at before (SOuthern Illinois University) had a bad ass weight room - it was enormous. Lotsa juicers too. I ran my first cycle down there and realized that LOTS of the regulars were using too.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Week 7 -- MONDAY

Worked out at school. It was pretty empty.

Squat 1x5:warmups, 185x5, 225x5, 275x5, 315x5, 365x5, 405x1, then 315x5
-I dunno... there are a lot of reasons I only did one w/ 405. First, I'm used to squatting in front of a mirror (which I know is less than ideal but I'm VERY accustomed to it) and this place doesn't have mirrors in front of the power rack. Second, my hams are still beat from my new squat form and the RDL's from wednesday. On top of that, i didn't feel confident in any of the people around to spot me. I got a little stuck at the bottom but got the rep fine, but I was just too scared to attempt another, though I sat there with the bar on my back after the one rep thinking about it for like 10-20 seconds. Just for the sake of volume I stripped a plate real quick and did 5 fast 'speed' reps w/ 315. Four plates for five should be a gimme by next week I think.

Bench 5x5:warmups, 315(PR)
-Nice 20 pound PR. The only 'grinders' were the final reps on the last 2 sets.

Pendlay rows 5x5 : warmups, 285(PR), then 225x10
-I did the back off b/c I just can't pull my shoulder blades back nice and tight w/ this much weight. It felt good to pinch 'em together hard on the backoff set.

No fluff today. Life's gonna be crazy for a while b/t full time school and full time work. My last two days of getting loose ends tied up and working have me waking at 5 a.m and getting back home at about 9 p.m.

 

[Phaded]

can you explain pendlay rows for me buddy..

 

[Guinness5.0]

can you explain pendlay rows for me buddy..

Read down to the bottom of page one here:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366601

Then check out this thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4697367&postcount=301

It's an awesome exercise - my lats have blown up from 'em. I didn't realize how much they'd grown til I saw my deadlift vid and didn't recognize my own back

 

[blut wump]

I just checked on your bench at the end of the HST at the end of Nov. You did 315x1 and reckoned you might have done another 1 or 2. That's some fine progress.

 

[anotherbutters]

Sounds like things are still going great G5.0, and it doesn't sound like there are any signs of overreaching yet either. How come you wanted spotters for squats when you're in the power rack?

How long are you going to be doing the full time school and work combination?

Are JS and Pendlay rows pretty much the same thing? One of the links you provided went to TotalElite, where they were talking about JS rows, with passing reference to Pendlay rows. I think the pictures were of Pendlay rows. I've always had my back parallel to the floor, but my legs have been straight, knees just unlocked, so I've been in a much weaker position for doing these and using a much bigger ROM.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Sounds like things are still going great G5.0, and it doesn't sound like there are any signs of overreaching yet either. How come you wanted spotters for squats when you're in the power rack?

At a guess I'd say I've got another two weeks or so at this pace - I am starting to feel more and more fatigue as the weeks go, but nothing to cause me to slow down yet. And I've never dumped a heavy squat before, so I'm not to comfy with the idea of not having some help if I were to get stuck. Probably a mental thing more than anything else. Plus, when someone's spotting I always manage to get more than otherwise.

How long are you going to be doing the full time school and work combination?

The job I have currently is a temp job but it pays well so I really don't want to quit it. It wraps up in a few weks, so I won't be too deep in the semester trying to burn the candle at both ends. THen I'll get an easy job.

Are JS and Pendlay rows pretty much the same thing?

Not sure. I do mine with my knees bent a fair amount. My erecrors are shot after these. Yesterday I was thinking that my 5x5 row was only 90 pounds less than my 5x5 dead, so I think my dl weakness has got to be my hams/hips.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Are JS and Pendlay rows pretty much the same thing?

Yes. (Believe me, I spent a bunch of time wandering around Meso and any boards to which google searches for those words led me.) They're both terms for rows with a wide grip, the back at parallel, minimal hip angle change during a fast pull, deweighting between reps, and an attempt to "squeeze the shoulders". As far as legs, JS said that the degree of bend is determined by individual flexibility/proportions and the ability to drop the shoulders. In other words, whatever allows you to do the rest of the stuff listed.

I think this thread or parts of it are already linked to or quoted in madcow's 5x5 documentation:
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=134232600