I think I'll continue what I'm doing until May 1 then start my cycle. My legs and my arms, my chest and my back are all big and bulky, you can see definition, you can see the veins in my arms POP when I lift and they are always visible. I can see an outline of my abs, but if i let myself TOTALLY relax it looks like i have a gut. you can feel each abdominal muscle just can't really see it. Ive been doing a lot of core work to tighten the area, but it's still not that lean. At this point I don't care. I care more about looking "big" and even more than that is being strong. Having abs is like a plus for me, but I really don't think I could see abs below 7 or maybe 8 % BF. for me I wouldn't want to be that lean and be under 190 pounds because I would just look skinny. and probably be very weak. I'll just have to deal with the fact that my body holds fat in my stomach.