I start all my workouts pounding the iron heavy as many of you may have noticed from my previous posts I dont believe in overtraining. I will go for as many as 30-35 sets a muscle group how I do this is splitting the sets between the iron and the machines. I get a great pump and burn from the iron but the machines at the end let me know that I am completely exausting the muscle fibers till there are many days that I cannot drive home from the gym my girl needs to especially leg day. Dont limit your bodies gains by not using all the possible tools that are available to help it grow just cause your ego says dont use the machines. That is just ignorant