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Macadamia Nut diet

solidg said:
Thats interesting

Please tell me more

basically, when trying to replicate the research showing this effect. You would want to keep your 90% fat, 10% protein with zero carbs. This can be done with oils or even cream cheese.
Macadamia nuts will work b/c they are primarily fat, other nuts contain carbs so they dont work.

You dont want any "substance" that will increase "insulin" production. That includes protein or carbs and it also means you "HAVE" to have some calories in your diet to prevent you from using lean muscle to fuel you.

SO, the only thing left is dietary fat. That is where the macadamia nuts come in. They provide energy to utilize given you limit the amount to about 1000 calories. You cant eat 10,000 calories worth obviously or you'll gain weight like an artic bear preparing for hibernation.

The key is calorie deprivation coupled with the optimal hormonal environment to 'liberate' energy from the fat cells as a primary energy source.
Macadamia nuts is just one example of a high fat food with virtually nothing else. If you wanted optimal. then just take a small shot of oil per feeding with nothing else for ten days and you would lose the most weight.

The key thing is that insulin is nonexistant, the calorie deprivation is there and you have glucagon hormone running rampant over the usual insulin predominance. This will make you "pee" out ketones. Ketones are the byproducts of fat breakdown. Thats the way fat is used, fat goes to ketone bodies then burned but in excess, you will piss and shit out more energy than you use
Meaning, in the optimal fat fast diet, you will lose 1.5lbs on average with alot of that being excreted in urine, feces, sweat and breath. It may not make you the finest person to be around. Diabetics get that disgusting odor about them and people know it with they are in that state. But, it is very effective short term.

The thing is is that its safety has not been established to follow it long term but in the Naval hospital study over a total fast, the level of potassium stayed within normal preventing cardiac arrythmias from occuring.

It is the most effective way to lose fat stores that has been demonstrated.
The mechanism is the prevention of glucose or sugars being made from protein intake or the use of protein breaking down from muscle. That prevents glucose affecting insulin secretion and like I said. Insulin is the antagonist to glucagon and overrides it thereby fucking the hormonal balance for optimal weight loss.
A diet with minimal calories is better than a diet with zero calories as long as it comes from a virtually 100% fat source. Those extra calories prevent the body going into 'starvation' mode and using muscle for energy (which turns to glucose through neoglucogenesis which affects insulin preventing glucagon from releasing fat stores)

Its a few steps away from making sense, but if you think it through, it make sense. A high fat low calorie diet is by science proven the best way to reduce fat stores.
Now, the problem is cheating and sticking to it, no one can. If you eat or cheat, it ruins the hormonal environment that the whole idea is striving towards. Most likely why no one talks about this at all b/c its not realistic
 
pintoca said:
BS!!!

Brothabill, prove this: Lestat is STR8

I dare you MFer, I DOUBLE DARE YOU!
bad bro material
 
BrothaBill said:
basically, when trying to replicate the research showing this effect. You would want to keep your 90% fat, 10% protein with zero carbs. This can be done with oils or even cream cheese.
Macadamia nuts will work b/c they are primarily fat, other nuts contain carbs so they dont work.

You dont want any "substance" that will increase "insulin" production. That includes protein or carbs and it also means you "HAVE" to have some calories in your diet to prevent you from using lean muscle to fuel you.

SO, the only thing left is dietary fat. That is where the macadamia nuts come in. They provide energy to utilize given you limit the amount to about 1000 calories. You cant eat 10,000 calories worth obviously or you'll gain weight like an artic bear preparing for hibernation.

The key is calorie deprivation coupled with the optimal hormonal environment to 'liberate' energy from the fat cells as a primary energy source.
Macadamia nuts is just one example of a high fat food with virtually nothing else. If you wanted optimal. then just take a small shot of oil per feeding with nothing else for ten days and you would lose the most weight.

The key thing is that insulin is nonexistant, the calorie deprivation is there and you have glucagon hormone running rampant over the usual insulin predominance. This will make you "pee" out ketones. Ketones are the byproducts of fat breakdown. Thats the way fat is used, fat goes to ketone bodies then burned but in excess, you will piss and shit out more energy than you use
Meaning, in the optimal fat fast diet, you will lose 1.5lbs on average with alot of that being excreted in urine, feces, sweat and breath. It may not make you the finest person to be around. Diabetics get that disgusting odor about them and people know it with they are in that state. But, it is very effective short term.

The thing is is that its safety has not been established to follow it long term but in the Naval hospital study over a total fast, the level of potassium stayed within normal preventing cardiac arrythmias from occuring.

It is the most effective way to lose fat stores that has been demonstrated.
The mechanism is the prevention of glucose or sugars being made from protein intake or the use of protein breaking down from muscle. That prevents glucose affecting insulin secretion and like I said. Insulin is the antagonist to glucagon and overrides it thereby fucking the hormonal balance for optimal weight loss.
A diet with minimal calories is better than a diet with zero calories as long as it comes from a virtually 100% fat source. Those extra calories prevent the body going into 'starvation' mode and using muscle for energy (which turns to glucose through neoglucogenesis which affects insulin preventing glucagon from releasing fat stores)

Its a few steps away from making sense, but if you think it through, it make sense. A high fat low calorie diet is by science proven the best way to reduce fat stores.
Now, the problem is cheating and sticking to it, no one can. If you eat or cheat, it ruins the hormonal environment that the whole idea is striving towards. Most likely why no one talks about this at all b/c its not realistic

So Im not dumb after all
 
solidg said:
So Im not dumb after all

well not in what you are stating b/c you stumbled on the best way to liberate fat stores.
I think the main thing is battling the 'lowfat' mentality that exists. In the insulin rich diets of the US then excess fat makes you fat but this is an exception as long as you are striving for hormonal dieting.

Its hard to give the advice though to do the low carb dieting b/c it teaches people to eat fats, cheese, bacon etc... Habits they carry back over once they inevitably go back to eating breads and pasta but only with a shitload more butter and fats added and become fat at an astonishing weight.

So my advice is if you want to do it, then do not reward the behavior with nuts or any fat that tastes good so that you dont learn to eat that way.
Take a shot of oil as a meal replacement for ten days and lose 15 or 20 pounds of fat. Then eat veggies and other healthy foods that dont contain processed foods (anything ground processed or sugars etc...)

You could cycle the fat fast as well while you exercise to utilize it but it would be mentally a tough thing to do
 
brothabill you are very well spoken as always. I love it when you drop loads of knowledge for us all.
 
BrothaBill said:
well not in what you are stating b/c you stumbled on the best way to liberate fat stores.
I think the main thing is battling the 'lowfat' mentality that exists. In the insulin rich diets of the US then excess fat makes you fat but this is an exception as long as you are striving for hormonal dieting.

Its hard to give the advice though to do the low carb dieting b/c it teaches people to eat fats, cheese, bacon etc... Habits they carry back over once they inevitably go back to eating breads and pasta but only with a shitload more butter and fats added and become fat at an astonishing weight.

So my advice is if you want to do it, then do not reward the behavior with nuts or any fat that tastes good so that you dont learn to eat that way.
Take a shot of oil as a meal replacement for ten days and lose 15 or 20 pounds of fat. Then eat veggies and other healthy foods that dont contain processed foods (anything ground processed or sugars etc...)

You could cycle the fat fast as well while you exercise to utilize it but it would be mentally a tough thing to do

what type of oil
 
solidg said:
what type of oil

any type of oil will work, olive oil, flax oil, even the macadamia nuts if you need to eat something, cream cheese. The key is five 200 calorie meals per day for ten days. It will work but I am sure that you wont be a happy camper lol
 
BrothaBill said:
any type of oil will work, olive oil, flax oil, even the macadamia nuts if you need to eat something, cream cheese. The key is five 200 calorie meals per day for ten days. It will work but I am sure that you wont be a happy camper lol

i have had a friend of mine who tried this and she lost about 12 kgs of fat in about 6 weeks she said. Its a tough diet to follow but she was happy. After that is made a change to her diet and incorporated different kinds of meats but never went back to eating carbs again. The only carbs she consumed was the ones you get in the porducts like milk or vegies.
 
juicedmohawk said:
God damn BB is an idiot, seriously.

just describing the diet and didnt make it up, its actually been around for thirty years or more and there is research that explains it, I am simply regurgitating information that can be found in metabolism books
 
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