Low volume training while on juice?

[burnthiscorpse]

I love how the pros lift in the mag photo shoots with lighter weights (for their size and strength) and make people think you can get as big as them by lifting lighter weight. Most of them got huge by lifting heavy ass weight and doing more powerlifting style routines in their early days.

Most of the biggest guys out there got that big by lifting a lot of heavy ass weight. Ronnie, Johnnie Jackson, Dave Henry, and the list goes on and on. Guys see them lifting lighter weight after they already have 23" arms, 34" thighs and a 55" chest and think that's how they did it.

If you get huge lifting light weights, congratulations on having great genetics. You should get on stage!

I think my definition of lighter weights is different than many. Most people that think "light weight" lift too light and don't use near enough intensity and usually have zero understanding of mind muscle connection.

You are correct....early on...after the joints and connective tissue is conditioned, heavier weights build the best foundation.

 

[RickRock13]

DC Training is not for beginners. It's for advanced trainers.

That's for damn sure. If you can't truly go into the gym giving it 110%, leaving it all on the table, and truly making it "high intensity", then DC training isn't for you and you won't get shit out of it. Most times after my short DC session of 50 minutes to an hour, I leave looking like a finished cardio with my shirt stuck to me from my own sweat...,..especially after finishing that last set of widow makers.

 

[zedhed]

a basic stronglifts 5x5, followed by the madcow 5x5 variations are great programs. The Wendler 5/3/1 is a great program too. These can all be found online for free.

stronglifts.com has the various 5x5's (even the old madcow versions).

You will have to keep a training log book and journal your lifts. Keep track of everything because BBing is about progression. Lifting 5 lbs more this week than you did last week, or doing one more rep. Progression with weight is more important though.

This right here. More peepe in general have had more success with this type of program then most all of the others combined.
You just cant go wrong with any brand of 5x5 however my fav is still the SL 5x5. Easy, simple and effective. BUT YOU HAVE TO FEED THE PROGRAM.
Meaning you have to eat!
Eat Clean and Eat Big!!

 

[ceo]

+1 on eating big. If you wanna be big, you gotta eat big. So many people grow to 200-220 lbs and stay around that level, wondering why they aren't still growing. They are still eating the same way they ate that got them to 200-220, that's why. It takes a LOT of food to push someone up to 250, 270, 300+ pounds. Everyone is a little different, but generally for most going past a lean 220-230 or so requires eating like it's a full time job.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

+1 on eating big. If you wanna be big, you gotta eat big. So many people grow to 200-220 lbs and stay around that level, wondering why they aren't still growing. They are still eating the same way they ate that got them to 200-220, that's why. It takes a LOT of food to push someone up to 250, 270, 300+ pounds. Everyone is a little different, but generally for most going past a lean 220-230 or so requires eating like it's a full time job.

98% of people don't get it. Eating to go from 180 to 200 or maybe 200 to 220 is one thing. That first 20 lb isn't so bad. But when you really want to add mass you have to go above and beyond. Its not easy either. At least IMHO. Getting 5000 clean cals. and having a good macro ratio is a bitch. Its also not cheap. Its not easy to keep it up consistently either. I have a hard enough time(when its time for it) getting 3500 clean calories. I'm a pretty picky eater though too which doesn't help at all.

 

[BEAST420]

So then after reading this, it seems to me for max growth you could do low volume high intensity for couple of reps and then drop set to high volume and low intensity ? Or maybe I was thinking if having a 6day split hitting body parts two times per week and doing high volume first 3 days and low volume the 2nd ??

Or would you guys think it makes most sense to do high volume for 2montjs then low volume for 2months

To be honest, especially on juice , I feel like I grow both ways , and if diet is in check i don't see why that would change. But I do want the most out of training so curious what u guys think ..

 

[Cipp21]

Now we're working our way towards the real truth. 80% of bodybuilding is done in the kitchen. Your lifting routine/style will never limit your gains as much as your diet will...

Also if your looking for a good combo try out Layne Nortons PHAT routine, great balance between the two.

 

[RickRock13]

Now we're working our way towards the real truth. 80% of bodybuilding is done in the kitchen. Your lifting routine/style will never limit your gains as much as your diet will...

That is the absolute truth. Everybody is going to have their preference and training styles, and what works for them, but in the end your gains all come down to your diet. My training never changes, but my diet does depending on the goal. Obviously when I'm eating a ton, my strength and size shoot through the roof, and when I am dieting down I don't get those kind of results despite training the same.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

So then after reading this, it seems to me for max growth you could do low volume high intensity for couple of reps and then drop set to high volume and low intensity ? Or maybe I was thinking if having a 6day split hitting body parts two times per week and doing high volume first 3 days and low volume the 2nd ??

Or would you guys think it makes most sense to do high volume for 2montjs then low volume for 2months

To be honest, especially on juice , I feel like I grow both ways , and if diet is in check i don't see why that would change. But I do want the most out of training so curious what u guys think ..

IMHO, Train heavy. Kill it. That's all good. But you should do a de load period once in a while. SOme do a higher rep, lighter weight, more sets ect break for a week or two for every 8 or 10 weeks trained real heavy. There's a bunch of ways you could do it. The de load period is a must IMHO to keep connective tissue, joints, tendons ect healthy.

 

[ceo]

"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder...but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights."

-Ronnie Coleman