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Lets c if this ends the Chest debate...

bfold, you are basically saying that anything you say is right as long as you are bigger than the person who you are arguing with. that is incorrect. the only thing worse than saying inclines work the upper pecs is saying you are right because you are bigger.
 
Putting a milk crate or a small wooden box under one end of a flat bench works well for making it into an incline too.

Well I have to say that you definately dont have to do inclines to get upper chest development but doing inclines may increase upper chest mass faster than flat benches.
 
Lumbuss said:
bfold, you are basically saying that anything you say is right as long as you are bigger than the person who you are arguing with. that is incorrect. the only thing worse than saying inclines work the upper pecs is saying you are right because you are bigger.

To each his own...and as long as they enjoy being the size they are...let them believe what they believe. When you decide that you really want to grow...then it will be time to reconsider.

I am NOT saying that you should listen to me because I am bigger...just saying that maybe there is a trend between what the bigger guys are saying and the way that they look. You really think that a lot of pro bodybuilders don't do inclines...haha...

B True
 
Lemme step in here a little...

I think BFold is saying that he is right because he has GROWN more not that he is bigger. If someones results outweigh someone elses, id guess he knows more. Otherwise, why wouldnt the other guy have the same results? I agree with the big guys. Im gonna keep doin my inclines for my upper chest, and u do what u gotta do. Lets see who developes better.
 
I guess this chest debate will remain a sticky for some time. Often the upper chest need several years of dedicated hard work before it fully filled. Therefore switching to inclines will not give you results overnight.

I think that if you train for 5 years and the flat benchpress gives you nice overall chest development, you should stick to it, but if you feel you are still lacking in the clavicle area you should give the inclines a change.....
 
I would like to find someone with great pec development that has never done inclines.

I would also like this debate to end.....but both seem impossible.
 
Strong, I've made this point before, but it gets ignored.

I've acheived what seems to be identical chest development from doing flat as from doing incline. I do almost exclusively incline these days. My "upper" chest has always sucked IMO, regardless of either way.

Not quite what you were looking for, but interesting enough.
 
strong island said:
I would like to find someone with great pec development that has never done inclines.

I would also like this debate to end.....but both seem impossible.

I have literally done inclines less than a dozen times in my life, and when I wear a competition shirt, I have cleavage. Screwball laughs at this, but I retort that it is visual proof of my well developed upper chest.

Inclines definately have their place, as do flat bench and declines. And anyone out there who thinks Bfold does not know what he is talking about is a fool.

I don't say this because he is big. A lot of big guys don't know much. But if you saw the incredible improvement Bfold has made since his martial arts pics, and can still say this guy does not know what he is talking about, then you are not worth wasting keystrokes on.

B.
 
I haven't read most of this threads. Let me only say that how much somebody gets bigger is also dependant on genetics.

Some people may NEVER get BIG regardless of training, steriods, recuperation, whatever.

-Zulu
 
The ONLY point that I guess that I can really make is this...Prove it to yourself!!! That is what I have done. I do some inclines now because it does help with my overhead press and gives me a little chest development (something my routine lacks).

I don't have to prove anything to you and I can't do it. We are dealing with a topic where I can not only post evidence that says that inclines don't work the upper chest just like I can show pics and tons of people's opinions that say that inclines solely developed their chest. We can not come to a solid decision here because there is evidence to support both sides.

Just prove it to yourself, just like any other advide given here on Elite. Prove it, either way, to yourself and be happy.

B True
 
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