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Lets c if this ends the Chest debate...
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Lumbuss
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Genetics determine the shape of your chest, not inclines or declines. All you can do is make it bigger or smaller. Thats it.
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Lumbuss
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Im thining about adding some inclines to my delt routine because they are lagging.
Iron Force
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Inclines will hit your front delts more.
You guys are so funny...and it is funny that the larger people on this board (bignate, needsize, etc...) say that to bring up the upper chest one needs to do some sort of inclines.
Someday you will realize that just because a book says it...it doesn't mean that it is true.
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Someday you will realize that just because a book says it...it doesn't mean that it is true.
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bignate73
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b fold the truth said:
there is a difference though bfold the way you train and the way the majority of people are training. you train verrry heavy. max fiber recruitment. the majority of people dont periodize their training so they stick to the 8-12 range 60-85% 1RM. so in order for them to thoroughly tax the muscle, it requires them to tire out one area, then another and another. they arent always hitting fast twitch per se, and alot of it goes on "feel". if i had the safety of a spotter or a rack, i would probably train similar, just for the experience.
incline to me is not incline for some. ideally i would like about a 10% incline. i usually skip flat, and do weighted dips. i use the palpation method to how i train. i feel where i get maximum tension on the muscle (what angle, grip width, etc) and go with that.
as of late i have been switching up my presses to decrease the angle of my elbows from my body. it feels pretty nice on my shoulders and i can still get some good weight up, especially with a little goose from my legs. today i was getting 95s on incline for 8+.
i'll be the first to say, there is no absolute answers, or no one way to train that will yield constant results. so thats where something like you do, or a more bodybuilding type routine, or even explosive movements cycled into a program will be a more rounded program because it doesnt take one side it encompasses many styles/beliefs/principles.
variety is the key, IMO.
as for me being one of the bigger people here. LOL. im just a strong little bird. <tweet tweet>
bigger means over 200 lbs to me, thats alot of burger king. but thanks for the compliment.
ive been reading and reading (and practicing) as of late and learning more than i ever thought possible. so hence a bit more open mindedness.
bignate73: You said exactly what I meant!!!! I agree with you very much. I just think that it is funny that the big guys here on Elite (yes you are one of them) say that inclines help build the upper chest and the smaller ones say that it doesn't for one reason or another.
I may debate with you quite a bit...but I do listen to every word that you post in detail. From looking at your pics, you DO know what you are talking about and have put your principles to good use (even if you are under 200 pounds). I just think that it is time that people look at you and think to themselves...If bignate and needsize say that they built their chest with inclines and higher reps...maybe I should too.
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I may debate with you quite a bit...but I do listen to every word that you post in detail. From looking at your pics, you DO know what you are talking about and have put your principles to good use (even if you are under 200 pounds). I just think that it is time that people look at you and think to themselves...If bignate and needsize say that they built their chest with inclines and higher reps...maybe I should too.
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Thanks bfold, it still sounds weird being the skinny 145lb kid that I was, hearing anyone call me big, especially someone your size.....
This is where the debate started to annoy me, sure those kids may have read a book or 2, but how long have the vets on here been researching things for themselves. But at least we can add what did work for us, to the knowlege we gained from reading. I know I'm not an expert, but being a hardgainer that busted his ass for 10+ years for every ounce I gained, I did definitely get a feel for what did build muscle and where.
BTW, when I talk about inclince, I mean a 20-30% one, any more and all I get is shoulders. Since none of the barbell benches are ever built at that angle, I dumbell press, and put a few plates under to bench to customize the angle that I want.
This is where the debate started to annoy me, sure those kids may have read a book or 2, but how long have the vets on here been researching things for themselves. But at least we can add what did work for us, to the knowlege we gained from reading. I know I'm not an expert, but being a hardgainer that busted his ass for 10+ years for every ounce I gained, I did definitely get a feel for what did build muscle and where.
BTW, when I talk about inclince, I mean a 20-30% one, any more and all I get is shoulders. Since none of the barbell benches are ever built at that angle, I dumbell press, and put a few plates under to bench to customize the angle that I want.
My incline is about a 30 degree also...
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