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Lagging Chest...do fly's before pressing movements?
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My grip on the flat bench, at it's widest, is pinky on the power ring. Most of them are done with my pointer finger on the smooth part of the bar these days...serves my functional goals better.
B True
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it's no wonder many people have rotator cuff problems while benching. ignoring your rotator cuffs as a working part on your body is the main mistake. many go into the gym and just try to hit heavy weight in the bench press. people, you HAVE to strengthen your cuffs to handle the associated weight. if you have problems with your cuffs now, think back when you actually said," oh shit, i think i hurt something," while walking around the gym and holding your shoulder. the lack of strength in your cuffs did this, and 9 out of 10 times you WEREN'T ready to handle the weight. I would rather train my cuffs and back up in weight until i can handle it. ignoring the problem and just giving up on benching is absurd. sure, changing exercises is good, but all in all you STILL have to use your cuffs in ANY benching rather it be dumbbell or straight bar. don't ignore the problem, attack and fix it. Do rotator cuff work....
p.s. people, one more piece of advice: "check your ego and pride at the door of the gym." no one cares what you USED to do before you hurt your shoulder....what do you do NOW?
Be smart....Listen to your body, it's your only reliable source.
p.s. people, one more piece of advice: "check your ego and pride at the door of the gym." no one cares what you USED to do before you hurt your shoulder....what do you do NOW?
Be smart....Listen to your body, it's your only reliable source.
FitnessFrk
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you do not have to specifically train the rotator cuffs. I've been benching over 400+ (550+ now) for the past 15 years without a single injury. if done with proper form and progression there is no reason for any injury in this sport.
one of the biggest reasons for injury in the sport that's associated with heavy lifting is person not taking enough time off to give the body a complete break. regardless if a person is training natural or using AS.
I've regulary taken 2-3 months off a year since I started training in '82 and have not had one single injury related to weight training, even when PL and I've got my 2000+ lbs @ 229 lbs.
I don't have the abstracts but there are several recent studies on the topic of taking extendend breaks from weight training and the benefits.
one of the biggest reasons for injury in the sport that's associated with heavy lifting is person not taking enough time off to give the body a complete break. regardless if a person is training natural or using AS.
I've regulary taken 2-3 months off a year since I started training in '82 and have not had one single injury related to weight training, even when PL and I've got my 2000+ lbs @ 229 lbs.
I don't have the abstracts but there are several recent studies on the topic of taking extendend breaks from weight training and the benefits.
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bignate73
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FitnessFrk said:
no need to dig up studies to prove something that is good common sense. the body cant be in full recovery mode/adaptation phase forever.
AS or no, something will break. it has a weird way of making you slow down, common cold, pulled muscle, impotence...oh wait.....er.....never mind. hehehe.
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spatterson said:
So the right way for you is the wrong way for develpoment of the pecs...
I see it like this. There are ALOT of movements you can do to improve your pecs. The bench form required to improve your pecs can cause more harm than good for some people, depending on form, experience, weight, and LUCK. It's considered a compound movement BECAUSE it invloves alot more than the pecs. Benching the way a BB does will work the pecs, at the expense of the shoulders/tris. Some people can do this forever with no trouble. If you are lifting for strength in the bench press you can NOT lift with your elbows out at a 90 degree angle to the sides, dropping to your chest, and expect to ever find out what you're capable of. None of the top benchers bench like a BB for that reason. The modified bench press that BB's do is wonderful for isolating the pecs. It's also wonderful for creating injuries. But you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Cornholio said:
I am finding that the best way for a bodybuilder is somewhere in between...
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FitnessFrk said:
I will agree with you that most people do not rest enough or take time off to recover. On the other hand I will disagree that this is all that is required along with good from to prevernt injuries. Some people genetically have problem with rotator cuffs. Some people have loos sockets or protruding bones. Its not always so cut and dry that if the form is good, they will have no problems. Some people were just not born with perfect cuffs and weight training will expose it in time.
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