this is the reason that people get f-ed up by using AS. they dont know what they are doing or how to use properly. your friend is one of the many guys that may have perminate sides and givs AS a bad name.
Tell him to come do some research on the board, but read the sticky for newbies before he posts anything
It seems like the younger you are, the more you can get away with and still make great gains. But rest assured, the ratios posted above by people who have spent vast amounts of time, effort, pain, and money are accurate. Not hitting the diet, rest, training correctly is wasting your time and effort.
It's all diet! Period. Without a solid diet, you'll get nothing. Without the dicipline to follow a diet, you need to give up any thought of AAS. It's about time people started to realize this. I mean who else is sick of shit like this? A solid diet is the foundation, without diet nothing else even matters. I mean fucking Mcdonalds. Give me a fuckin break! It's all diet. These are the same type of people who walk around the gym barefoot, with a fannypack on, openly talking about steroids and saying shit like this. "yeah bro, I'm getting back in the game. I USED TO BE about 220 and like 6% bf but I got sick and lost 75 lbs. Time to get back up there, I think Ill be there by summertime. You know just in time for the ladies" I don't know about anyone else, but this kind of mentality just drives me insane.