Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below what the HELL is that guy on?! at 6'4 245, and 5% bf. This guy, at only 23, has one of the best physiques around in my opinion. The thing is, he is athletic as well. I wonder what kind of cycles he has done??? I havent seen someone that torn up and big in awhile, and still be that athletic. He will put 99% of the WWF to shame in terms of physique...especially when he gets the WWF doctors to hook him up!
Jake from Tough Enough Two...
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That guy looks impressive. He is definetely about 6% BF, no more. No question about that. The guy is a monster. Congrats to him.
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like i said...
...on the other thread i agree about the amazing physique ( something i am shooting at bf wise. )
yet he is too tall, he will be like Schlierkamp...i think hes taller than gunther anyways and he will never place high...hed need to come in around 300 in contest shape i think if my calculations are correct..no?
( i think gunther comes in at 6'1" 290 contest shape )
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...on the other thread i agree about the amazing physique ( something i am shooting at bf wise. )
yet he is too tall, he will be like Schlierkamp...i think hes taller than gunther anyways and he will never place high...hed need to come in around 300 in contest shape i think if my calculations are correct..no?
( i think gunther comes in at 6'1" 290 contest shape )
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AFi04 said:
I agree with you bro. I think we have some jealous mofo's on the board. Give that guy credit, jeez, he looks awesome. I thought i looked good at 23ys old till i saw him.
the thing is...he doesnt want to step on stage. I highly doubt he trains like a bodybuilder. He is extremely athletic. I bet he is just hard core genetics with some good steroid cycles. If he changed his training and set goals to be a competitor..i bet he would do alright. A few of you are comparing him to what he would look like next to the pros...shit im just talking about doing a show or two if he set his goals like that. anyways..i wonder the kind of cycles he does? any ideas?
TheBear said:
the guy looks good but genetics???
This kids jaw gives cutlers a run for his money---
I think after the last episode---its pretty apparent that the WWF doesn't like him(probably because the fat asses that run it are jealous of the kids body and heart)if he isn't given the contract, you all can call the wwf the haters-----
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can someone get a pic of him posted here???
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im 21 6feet6 about 10-13 percent bodyfat depends if im binging. but that guy is what i aspire to look like, i just think i need some dnp for a couple cycles i will look real close to him.
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JC is right. 5% bodyfat..NO WAY. 7-8% sounds and looks about right.
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FlexBailey said:
Whatever! That guy's BF is no more than 6%.
olympia4ever
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bro, chek out pics of arnold at 23...lol...21 or so inch guns, look at him at his first mr.o...then compare the two guys, see whos better...i dont know who your talking about, but u asked if there were any 23 tear olds that looked as good, chek out arnold he might give him some competition
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Comparing that kid to Arnold? WTF? Arnold was one of the BEST BB of all time. This kid isnt a bodybuilder, he just looks damn good.
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you taking the piss? lol...is the smaller guy in the pic with the funny hair who you are talking about? compared to arnold at 23 hes a fat mess with no size...but that is compared with arnold
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arnold was about 7 % b fat...again the classic example of the bodyfat lie...this guy looks about 200 at 8%.
admiring this guy too much? no not really, but its impressive. As far as the pics go..they arent really very representative of what he looks like. if any of you watch the show, which some do, you know what im talking about...in the interviews he said his guns are 20 inches...not that small. Anyways, i just started this post because i was wondering what the hell he takes, and to point out someone who has his shit together physically. he isnt a bodybuilder, and quite frankly, i would take that physique over a Cutler or pro bb anyday. and to those saying 7 or 8 percent bf...HELL NO. just watch the show, its ridiculous.
olympia4ever, what the fuck are you talking about...if you dont know what the fuck you are talking about...dont talk. "200 pounds at 8% bodyfat." if you read through this post, knew the guy, or watched the show..you would clearly know that the guy is 6'4 245. The bodyfat is the only questionable part. I am sticking with 5-6%
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lol, calm down...arnold was 7% bfat and 235 at his first olympia and dwarves this guy...to get like this guy you dont need roids, about 5 years of good natural training...if you put this guy against cutler he would look like charlie chaplin...im not dissing this guy cos he is probably a great wrestler, but 5% lol...5% is frank zane, he is not as cut as frank zane nor does he look anywhere near as good, frank was 195-200 @ about 5 %maybe 4% and kills this guy...the only reason why this guy might be 240 is cos you say he is 6'4...i mean look at his arms in the top pic they look like spaghetti...about 17 inches possibly 18, compared with arnold that age whos were around 21 inches...you asked has anyone seen a 23 year old that looked this good, and your answer is 'arnold looked much better at 23' but admitedly arnold did juice, and this guy doesnt look as if he juices, so respect to him...take a look at top natural bb's who dont juice they look better than this guy easily.
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genarr3 said:
i agree.
wtf is up with his hair cut?
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ya , dont get me wrong, this guy looks good for a wrestler, but as far as a total physique he is sub-par, he is to tall. for 23 this guy looks good. im 21 at about 6'0 220 8%, i havent stood next to this guy but i really think if you give me 2 yrs i will swallow this guy. but then again thats just my opinon.
guys I stand next to him at the gym, and he is pretty big, he is like 3 inches taller than me, but we weigh about the same, man I wouldnt talk shit on him, he looks good, he works out pretty hard, and he will make the WWF, are you guys saying HAWK is the one who won the contest and got the contract........Jake really had trouble with his character and profile personna, besides that he is WWF material, he looks real good and big guys, like one guy said dont hate@
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jake looks and IS better than bodybuilders...wanna know why? cuz he is and looks functional..not like a walking slab of meat..
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That guy is not 5%, no way. If you guys ever met someone that has 5% BF you would find out that they dont function very well. Their reaction time is VERY slow and they get tired easily due to the lack of sugar in their body.
A 5% is not maintainable for long periods of time. I would think he is in the 7% range.
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A 5% is not maintainable for long periods of time. I would think he is in the 7% range.
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ironbarbarian, I have to disagree with you. I am 6.2% year round. i never go over 7% bodyfat. RIght now I am bulking up and am 7% exactly at 215. When I cut down to 200, I will be at a maximun 6% for summer. My friend is 5.5% for about 4 months throughout the year. For his shows, he goes in at 3.5% Off season he is 8%
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TheBear said:
How did you measure your BF?
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ironbarbarian, i do see where you are going with that, and I guess that is a good point. I usually go with the "bod pod" or hydrostatic before a show, but i usually just use calibers if i am just trying to lean out and see where i am. WHen I was making my statements about 6.2 year round, i do base that on calibers. Fuck that expensive shit besides shows.
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Bear,
The reason I asked was because I thought you were using calipers. And you are also right about the hydrostatic underwater weighing. That is very expensive but is currently the best way to get tested.
The reason I didnt believe jake was 5% was because the lowest BF I ever saw someone get tested in a lab under hydro was an NPC bb who came out at 4.5%. You had to repeat everything you said to him since he wasnt unable to function correctly. Also, being %4.5, he looked amazing and wayy more shreaded than Jake. So my reasoning was that in order for jake to have 5%, he should look and have a close condition to that guy I saw in the lab. But Jake didnt look even close to that bro. Just an observation. Calipers are very prone to errors.
a 5% BF is no joke.
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The reason I asked was because I thought you were using calipers. And you are also right about the hydrostatic underwater weighing. That is very expensive but is currently the best way to get tested.
The reason I didnt believe jake was 5% was because the lowest BF I ever saw someone get tested in a lab under hydro was an NPC bb who came out at 4.5%. You had to repeat everything you said to him since he wasnt unable to function correctly. Also, being %4.5, he looked amazing and wayy more shreaded than Jake. So my reasoning was that in order for jake to have 5%, he should look and have a close condition to that guy I saw in the lab. But Jake didnt look even close to that bro. Just an observation. Calipers are very prone to errors.
a 5% BF is no joke.
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Daeo, true, i realistically want to get down to 200-205 for competition. I have to lose a few pounds of fat, but also right now I am retaining alot of water, and have a feeling that bloating is where alot of my extra weight is coming from...unless I am just really off on my bf percentage. I am new to competing, but isnt it true where you can have a low bf, but be heavy from water retention?
The guy has all the physical skills and the look to make the WWF roster, but he's severely lacking the intangibles. His mic skills and character development are horrible. That promo he cut was terrible. I would guess that his ring psychology is pretty weak too, although they haven't shown them working on it in any of the epidsodes so far. I don't think the WWF wrestlers and staff are hating on him or jealous at all. He came off a bit cocky and they just want to knock that chip off his shoulder and make sure that he pays his dues. Most wrestlers aren't too keen on these guys getting a golden opportunity like that and walking right into a WWF contract. Most of these guys spent years working the indy scene in old barns and high school gyms, busting their ass in front of 50 people for $25 a night, all the while maintaining a day job to support themselves. At the beginning I thought him and that 6'10 guy were the frontrunners in the contest. Now my money is on Hawk. His qwerky ways really work for him in the ring. Makes him standout in the pack. He cut a good promo and showed a lot of iniatitive by practicing his faces and gimmicks at home. The physical skills can also be developed down the road, but you have to have "it" to get over with the crowd. Few wrestlers can get over on ringwork or physique alone. The ones that do are usually the giants of the sport, ie... Kane and Big Show for shear size and Benoit strictly for his ringwork.
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Remember this guy. He use to team with chuck pulumbo in WCW and briefly in WWF. He is listed as 6' 6" @280 lbs and always super shredded. He is also pretty athletic as well. So I don't know what all the excitement over jake is about.
Remember this guy. He use to team with chuck pulumbo in WCW and briefly in WWF. He is listed as 6' 6" @280 lbs and always super shredded. He is also pretty athletic as well. So I don't know what all the excitement over jake is about.
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I have to put my foot in now, this is getting out of hand...wrestlers are wrestlers, and bodybuilders are bodybuilders. How can anyone call themselves a bodybuilder if they are impressed by a wrestlers physique? Sure you might be impressed with the way they perform their stunts and fake fighting in the ring...but you cant be impressed with their physiques...if you want to see a real good physique, look at pics of dorian yates or pics of jay cutler or flex wheeler, those are great physiques, have you any idea what this guy would look like standing next to one of those guys? even poppa pump would be dwarved by a top pro bodybuilder. Respect to them for entertaining lots of people, but these guys do not have good physiques...by the way...'thebear'...i presume you look like serge nubret did in pumping iron all year round then mate cos serge nubret was 200 lbs at about 6% contest time, arnold was about 7%...so you must look better than those 2 all year round...if thats the case then well done congratulations you should place well in the nationals this year mate.
Remember Jason from the first tough enough? Now that mutherfucker was SWOLL! I remember an episode with him working is delts with no shirt on, and god damn he was big, much bigger than this guy your talking about. Jake is big, but jason was a beast.
REmember on WCW when they had all that shit with Master P and his crew? There was this white dude named chase......fuckin monster....
REmember on WCW when they had all that shit with Master P and his crew? There was this white dude named chase......fuckin monster....
olympia, you are one sarcastic motherfucker. No I am not claiming to be as big as those guys. Just because I carry low bodyfat doesn't mean i have half the muscle maturity of those guys...that does count alot though, and i am only 22. Shit a guy in my gym is 5'11 265, way more cut than me, way bigger than me..he has much more developed muscle maturity. He is also a professional competitor and former Mr. Universe. I am not on this board being cocky and I just work hard and eat right. Trying to talk shit about me being like Arnold and shit like that is just ignorant and meant to fucking piss people off. if you are a competitor, I doubt you would be talking shit to a brother that puts just as much blood, sweat and tears as you do in the gym. So please chill out. As far as this thread goes, its time to fucking kill it, it got out of hand.
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bear, i didnt mean to upset you mate...its just that i presume you look like serge nubret because he was around 6% bodyfat...he looked amazing, so congratulations...thats all...bro i was congratulating you...as for the non competitor thing you can chek me out at the u21 british title.
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So 4 months out of the year, your buddy walks around with borderline ripped glutes(which is what 5% looks like) and he considers it bulking?
and if you diet down to 6% at 200 pounds but are 7% at 215, what is your weight at 3.5% like your buddy(170)???
Just wondering-it interests me..peace
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Daeo said:
Except for Ronnie of course. Remember when he was on Leno, he said he keeps his body fat at like 1.6% during the off season or some outrageous number like that. LMAO. I threw my bull shit flag on that one.
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I see the point your trying to make but weight and bodyfat% really don't mean that much compared to symmetry--muscularity--then weight and bodyfat-----
Go to a local state show and see what I mean ----you can find guys that are 230 pounds and lean but a guy like arnold being even taller would make them look silly---Think about it why doesn't a guy like Gunther S(can't spell his last name) who supposedly competes at 6,2--290 make everyone else look tiny--------he comes in last place or close to it almost everytime....With your reasoning he would win everytime-----People say its because he is too tall---but he is only 3 inches taller then a chris cormier who is in the top 5 of any show he competes in. Its symmetry and muscularity---peace
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thing is mate, i expect someone with the same weight and bodyfat stats as serge nubret to look like serge nubret, possibly not the same shape, but i expect anyone saying 220 at 6% or whatever to look better than serge...imagine serge with an extra 20 lbs of quality.
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well thats what I'm saying---take a shawn ray who is likey to be 205 contest shape at (i think 5,6 or 5,7)
these types of weights and heights are a dime a dozen at the national level but how many of these guys can really stand on stage with Ray(not many if any)
Serge Nubret had some of the smallest joints I have ever seen(the size of this guys wrists looked like a little girls) which when you put all the muscle on him only make him look that much bigger then the next guy-----Someone with thick bones--thick waist but same height and weight and bodyfat can look awful next to a guy with tiny joints etc(like a serge nubret)
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Who the fuck are you guys talking about?
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That is not 5% by anyone's reality. I know precisely what 5% looks and feels like, and like someone said above, its no joke. Moreover, I think there are wrestlers with much more impressive physical abilities, even physiques. I trained in Atlanta for about a year and a half and have met MANY pro wrestlers at both Luger's gym and coffee's. Watch Scott Steiner lift for a while and your ego will shrink like testicles on tren. Luger will give almost anyone a run for their money in terms of pure physical athleticism. Anyone here remember that he was the only guy ever drafted into the pros directly from high school for quite some time? But Steiner lifts like a fuckin' drag line bulldozer in a coal mine strip. Its insane. Strong? Heh heh...the only pro BB that strong pound for pound might be Tom Prince. Bodybuilding is not about athleticism, at least not in its purest form. And wrestling is not about bodybuilding entirely, but bodybuilding of sorts is a big part of the marketing. However, charisma plays a role as well. And Jake has none of that as soon as he speaks. Hopefully that can be improved on, because he is impressive to look at. Incidentally, for those who want to see a true 5% there is a great photograph of Frank Zane in last summers Muscle Fitness mag with the 20 best photos of all time. Someone post that pic and this talk of 5% will stop. One last thing. Hydration plays a role in the amount of 'shred' that one sees. If Jake were to dehydrate, he might look a lot closer than some of you think. I put him at between 6.5-7.5 bf, but I am not a pro by any means, and compared to all of you I am skinny as fuck!
Fuck this guy has an impressive physique. I pick it over any pro's body. This is an anabolic forum not just bodybuilding. He is athletic and built. And as someone stated pretty damn strong as well. I would like to see any pro do what he is doing or do his old job of a wildland firefighter. Humping the hills all day with a piss pack on. Not fun work. Chopping fire lines. Cutting brush.
No he's not 5%. He would fuckin die at 5% doing the things he does. I think the athletic and very functionally strong look is better than a bodybuilders any day. Have a friend who is a NPC competitor and he is very built and strong. He had ripped glutes at his first show. But when it comes to rela world strength I put him on his ass with no problems. But he blows me away in a bodybuilding contest. Not my goal.
Sure he's done roids, who knows what kinds it could be anything. His charisma sucks so he won't win, but will probably show up sometime an he needs to cut that fucking hair.
I am willing to bet he looks better than most on here so I won't say he looks bad.
To the guy who said he looks bad, please post pics and we can compare.
No he's not 5%. He would fuckin die at 5% doing the things he does. I think the athletic and very functionally strong look is better than a bodybuilders any day. Have a friend who is a NPC competitor and he is very built and strong. He had ripped glutes at his first show. But when it comes to rela world strength I put him on his ass with no problems. But he blows me away in a bodybuilding contest. Not my goal.
Sure he's done roids, who knows what kinds it could be anything. His charisma sucks so he won't win, but will probably show up sometime an he needs to cut that fucking hair.
I am willing to bet he looks better than most on here so I won't say he looks bad.
To the guy who said he looks bad, please post pics and we can compare.
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