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Is bullying that bad?

Depends on what kind of bullying it is. Verbal or physical. It can get really serious for some. But ya I'am also getting pretty sick of hearing it on the news all the time. Regardless on how much people preach or do whatever there's always gonna be bully's no matter what.
 
Depends on what kind of bullying it is. Verbal or physical. It can get really serious for some. But ya I'am also getting pretty sick of hearing it on the news all the time. Regardless on how much people preach or do whatever there's always gonna be bully's no matter what.
I know that it's bad for some people, but I don't get why they decided to self harm.

I tell my kids to attack back. Is he bigger then you? Use a chair. Worst case, they're kicked out and they get home schooled or I switch them to private school.
 
I think all the publicity and the way kids are sheltered today is why they end up harming themselves,essentially urban society is raising a bunch of pussies
 
i have a 4 month old boy, so until he is in school I cant really say anything. Me I say put who ever in check and whoop his ass. lol my wife says different.
 
I know that it's bad for some people, but I don't get why they decided to self harm.

I tell my kids to attack back. Is he bigger then you? Use a chair. Worst case, they're kicked out and they get home schooled or I switch them to private school.

A few years back, my oldest kid was walking home from school (no school buses in SD) and some wannabe pre-teen homies started throwing rocks at him and flashing gang signs, my kid turned back, charged one, tagged him and the rest ran off.

Not sure how, but a sheriff saw it, and only arrested my kid. The school expelled him only, and I probably had to take about 6 days off to go to court, counseling, etc. with him.

I was done with public schools after that. They are like puppy mills for breeding pussy kids.
 
It's very complicated, and I can say first-hand that it can do permanent damage to a kid who is bullied. I was bullied as badly as anyone can be, and I still have issues from it. Bullies aren't evil, but they have no clue just how much damage they do. The bully victim would be better off getting his/her face slashed once, than to be bullied year after year. It's that bad! Take it from a nerd with high-functioning autism.

Charles
 
if my kids bully i will kick there ass (no not literally)

but if they get bullied they should kick ass
 
It's very complicated, and I can say first-hand that it can do permanent damage to a kid who is bullied. I was bullied as badly as anyone can be, and I still have issues from it. Bullies aren't evil, but they have no clue just how much damage they do. The bully victim would be better off getting his/her face slashed once, than to be bullied year after year. It's that bad! Take it from a nerd with high-functioning autism.

Charles

idk about that lol. A lot of those jackasses grow up to be adult bullies in the workplace, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc. Terrible to be around, they make everyone miserable. Abby is not old enough for this, female bullying is a little different, mostly verbal but equally as malicious... but it's something she has to learn to deal with, it does not exactly go away once you grow up.
 
Depends on what kind of bullying it is. Verbal or physical. It can get really serious for some. But ya I'am also getting pretty sick of hearing it on the news all the time. Regardless on how much people preach or do whatever there's always gonna be bully's no matter what.

This is what I try to tell ppl.. No matter what you try to do there will always be bullying. That's why this bullying bill that they keep trying to
Pass and having lady gaga preach about will do nothing. As a kid, I
Got picked on. My brother taught me how to fight, and when someone that was bigger picked on me he would kick their ass... When I would see someone getting picked on I would stand up to the bully.
 
Just yesterday some kid hung himself about getting picked on or some shit. What pisses me off is to know that so many of these kids are on anti depressants or other psychotropic drugs. It could be that these drugs are doing more harm
Than good to a young kid. When u see anti depressant commercials you hear all the negative side effects that can happen. One being that it can actually increase suicidal thoughts. Kids just need to be tougher and kids need to know that's it's ok to go their parents and talk about the issues. Social media does not help in this regard.
 
There was one girl that I tormented in high school. She would steal all my boyfriends! Lol but really, she didn't deserve the two YEARS of torment I gave her. I mean girl'd the hell out of her, got people to hate her and talked about her behind her back, called her fat, I was awful...just to her, I can't believe I was capable of being so mean to someone. I was close to my psychology teacher and he saw what I was doing and he told me I needed to make amends with people say I was sorry to whomever because I might not get the chance again and when he said that I thought of her but blew him off... he was right though, it haunted me for years as I lost contact and I always wanted to tell her I was sorry for the way I treated her. 9 years later I ran into her and her mom during the holiday season, and I know they recognized me, so I gave her an apologetic smile and stopped to chat for just a minute. I told her I was sorry, and she seemed to accept my apology.

It was kinda like the mean girl movie. lolomg.
 
Just yesterday some kid hung himself about getting picked on or some shit. What pisses me off is to know that so many of these kids are on anti depressants or other psychotropic drugs. It could be that these drugs are doing more harm
Than good to a young kid. When u see anti depressant commercials you hear all the negative side effects that can happen. One being that it can actually increase suicidal thoughts. Kids just need to be tougher and kids need to know that's it's ok to go their parents and talk about the issues. Social media does not help in this regard.

Psychs will script for ANYTHING. It's unreal how that world works. I almost have more respect for a psychologist than a psych.
 
Respect cindy, not many ppl would have done tht. Hell when we are young we all do dumb shit, but it's being able to realize what we did wrong and taking responsibility for our actions that separates many ppl. I wish ppl would realize tho that bullying has always been around and will always be around. No matter how many laws or more rights they try to take away from us..
 
idk about that lol. A lot of those jackasses grow up to be adult bullies in the workplace, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc. Terrible to be around, they make everyone miserable. Abby is not old enough for this, female bullying is a little different, mostly verbal but equally as malicious... but it's something she has to learn to deal with, it does not exactly go away once you grow up.

The verbal girl shit is way worse than physical boy bullying.

I firmly believe middle/high school aged girls can be way way more evil than boys. I had an awesome school experience but my sister had a terrible time. Prob one of the reasons she has so many probs these days.
 
Just yesterday some kid hung himself about getting picked on or some shit. What pisses me off is to know that so many of these kids are on anti depressants or other psychotropic drugs. It could be that these drugs are doing more harm
Than good to a young kid. When u see anti depressant commercials you hear all the negative side effects that can happen. One being that it can actually increase suicidal thoughts. Kids just need to be tougher and kids need to know that's it's ok to go their parents and talk about the issues. Social media does not help in this regard.

you talking about the kid that hung him self at parkside in kenosha,wi??
 
I read it in the daily mail. Just google "kid hangs himself" in news section. Kid was from Boston. He was bullied so he stood up for himself and he got suspended. He hung himself.
 
There was one girl that I tormented in high school. She would steal all my boyfriends! Lol but really, she didn't deserve the two YEARS of torment I gave her. I mean girl'd the hell out of her, got people to hate her and talked about her behind her back, called her fat, I was awful...just to her, I can't believe I was capable of being so mean to someone. I was close to my psychology teacher and he saw what I was doing and he told me I needed to make amends with people say I was sorry to whomever because I might not get the chance again and when he said that I thought of her but blew him off... he was right though, it haunted me for years as I lost contact and I always wanted to tell her I was sorry for the way I treated her. 9 years later I ran into her and her mom during the holiday season, and I know they recognized me, so I gave her an apologetic smile and stopped to chat for just a minute. I told her I was sorry, and she seemed to accept my apology.

It was kinda like the mean girl movie. lolomg.
So....you're a bitch?

Well, didn't see that one coming... :rolleyes:


:lmao:
 
Add in cyber-bullying...girls will utilize this method more often using the internet, Facebook, MySpace, texting, to drag someones name and character through the mud...bullies are kids who have self esteem problems, making others feel less than they do makes them feel better about themselves. There is no place for it, although our society is so fucked up our children are not growing up with the social skills they need because they hide behind a screen and create a fantasy world separate from reality...and we really have the internet to thank for it. My six year old daughter asked for an IPad for her birthday...I mean really? It is only going to get worse.

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Yes! My 7 yrs old neice wants a phone and her personal laptop. I told my brother not to get any of that shit for her. She doesn't need either one of those things. I didn't get a laptop until I was like 17-18 yrs old. And a cell. But again, I wanna state, that bullying will never go away.
 
I know that it's bad for some people, but I don't get why they decided to self harm.

I tell my kids to attack back. Is he bigger then you? Use a chair. Worst case, they're kicked out and they get home schooled or I switch them to private school.
Dad always told me he prefered being called to the principle's office because I whooped some kids ass for picking on me than because a bully whooped my ass...

Lol I was a very sweet and sensitive little girl, and I don't consider myself a bitch today. I have no explanation for my behavior during that time.

estrogen poisoning?
 
I hate kids!
What pointless creatures!

Well bro, obviously you have never looked into the eyes of a little baby girl who is so innocent in this fucked up world and know that this little angel is depending on you, her daddy, to protect her, care for her, and raise her to be the best little girl she can be...only then you will realize that it will be the most incredible, overpowering, unconditional love you will ever feel in your life...stronger than any girlfriend, wife, or even mother...would your mom say that about you? It's all good bro, won't hold that comment against you, being a proud daddy that I am.

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When I was bullied by a group of girls in school, I beat the crap out of two of them. Then they got several boys to come after me. One day I found myself at my locker surrounded by five guys. Not only did they rough me up, but they groped me. The school did nothing, so I found the biggest baddest guy I could and made him my boyfriend. He went after every single one of them.

I tell my boys to be careful to stick to their own problems and give everyone a chance, but to beat the holy hell out of the guy that crosses the line so others know to leave you alone.
 
When I was bullied by a group of girls in school, I beat the crap out of two of them. Then they got several boys to come after me. One day I found myself at my locker surrounded by five guys. Not only did they rough me up, but they groped me. The school did nothing, so I found the biggest baddest guy I could and made him my boyfriend. He went after every single one of them.

I tell my boys to be careful to stick to their own problems and give everyone a chance, but to beat the holy hell out of the guy that crosses the line so others know to leave you alone.

Exactly. But sadly our society teaches that "tolerance" is the only way, which the pos's of the world will always take advantage of.
 
kids are cruel, but it's part of growing up.

parents should teach their kids to stand up to bullies.

they're all basically the same. the minute you stand up to them or get in their face they don't bother you anymore.
 
When I was bullied by a group of girls in school, I beat the crap out of two of them. Then they got several boys to come after me. One day I found myself at my locker surrounded by five guys. Not only did they rough me up, but they groped me. The school did nothing, so I found the biggest baddest guy I could and made him my boyfriend. He went after every single one of them.

I tell my boys to be careful to stick to their own problems and give everyone a chance, but to beat the holy hell out of the guy that crosses the line so others know to leave you alone.

what the fuck???

damn, you must have went to a rough school.

what a bunch of chickenshits. 5 dudes against 1 girl?

none of the schools i went to would have anything like that happened. if it did, it would have been a shitstorm.

girl on girl violence is one thing...
 
what the fuck???

damn, you must have went to a rough school.

what a bunch of chickenshits. 5 dudes against 1 girl?

none of the schools i went to would have anything like that happened. if it did, it would have been a shitstorm.

girl on girl violence is one thing...

Ya, that wouldn't fly where I am from either.
 
kids are cruel, but it's part of growing up.

parents should teach their kids to stand up to bullies.

they're all basically the same. the minute you stand up to them or get in their face they don't bother you anymore.

Not the case. Many bullies just try harder. Not to mention, many bullies are bigger and stronger than their victims....hence the bullying.
Not saying dont stand up to them though.

Us older people think kids are soft now a days.
The older generation always thinks the younger one is fucked up and has it easy.


"When I was your age we had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to school"

Shit like that should sound familiar to most of us.

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my dad told me to always fight back. my dad says that he would be so proud of me if i kicked someones ass for picking on me or attempted to throw a punch. at my district if u punch back both of u get sent another school for 3 days and u have to take an anger management class.
 
I teach my 7 yr old daughter to fight back. Not be a bully, but take no one else's bs. She understands. Bullies in a way have their place by molding us into who we are. We only learn our true character when we face adversity. Young or old. Of course there are exceptions like 6 kids beating up an aisan kid or some gang up pussy shit like that but we are raising a nation of pussies that don't know how to react to any kind of adversity. There are always exceptions, but coddling our kids will do them no good whatsoever.

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Just ask Plunkey and Chris


Bullying with kids is worse since parents are no longer allow to parent properly. If I ever bullied anyone, my Mom would give me a shoe to the head. Today, you punish a kid, you can get arrested for child abuse.
Bullying is a learned behavior from watching the parents, 9 out of 10 times, if you see some kid being a bully, his parents are loud mouthed bullies as well.
 
When I was in grade 8, I was bullied daily by a bunch of black girls. They would follow me down the hall and pushed me or they would wait for me at the bus stop and surround me like they were going to hit me. Then one day, I took all the IRISH I had in me and this one girl (still remember her name Dejon....shocker) went to grab me and I went hog wild on her ass! Went right in her face, yelled at her and didn't need to touch her and they all ran away like fucking pussies!

Since I was in my late teens, no one dare bully me.
 
Violence is the last option on the list. But it IS on the list.

I really hate to say it, but it is indeed on the table if as a last resort. I never used it, and that's probably why I never ended the bullying in school. I just went through school avoiding it and laughing it off, and I was shocked at how much influence that sh*t had on me later in life. It's a deep wound that isn't visible, and we don't always know we have it.

My wife, who is little, had to end some bullying when she was in middle school. A big dude was bugging her (not sexually), but just constantly teasing her and calling her names, and finally she laid him out flat with a black eye and possibly a cracked rib or two. She was never, never, never hassled in school again by anyone; male or female. Even if it doesn't have to go that far, it's amazing what a little bit of face-off can do, even if you don't make contact. I was in a spot with a cowboy-type (about my size), and he was mouthing off to us about a problem with his girlfriend's horse (boarded at our place). He started escallating things, and all I had to do was stand up and take a step toward him, and he backed down, and it was over with. I can't say that would work every time, and honestly I doubt I have the skills to have taken that guy, but he didn't know that.

Charles
 
Not the case. Many bullies just try harder. Not to mention, many bullies are bigger and stronger than their victims....hence the bullying.
Not saying dont stand up to them though.

Us older people think kids are soft now a days.
The older generation always thinks the younger one is fucked up and has it easy.


"When I was your age we had to walk up hill both ways in the snow to school"

Shit like that should sound familiar to most of us.

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The funny thing is I did do that lol. There were hills both to and from school, but the worst part was the snow. 5th grade through freshman year I remember walking a little less than a mile one way in storms that would've closed any downstate school for the day. This was in the UP of MI though; things are a little different up there lol.
 
I know that it's bad for some people, but I don't get why they decided to self harm.

I tell my kids to attack back. Is he bigger then you? Use a chair. Worst case, they're kicked out and they get home schooled or I switch them to private school.

my son is in kindergarten and started wrestling this year and he's actually pretty good too...if someone fucks with him, i expect him to defend himself and he knows that...but, if he (or my girls) found himself in a repetitive abuse type situation that he could not handle himself?? that's easy...i hunt down the offending party's parent(s) and i fuck their shit up until they control their child's behavior.
 
strike first
strike hard
no mercy sir

is what i teach my kids about bullying


AMEN

I tell my nephews the best way to deal with a bully is to throw a straight right with everything you have smack-dab in the middle of their face. The 3-day or week suspension or whatever from school is a joke; it sets the tone and you are no longer an attractive target for kids looking to bully after you bloody up one of their kind.
 
When I was in grade 8, I was bullied daily by a bunch of black girls. They would follow me down the hall and pushed me or they would wait for me at the bus stop and surround me like they were going to hit me. Then one day, I took all the IRISH I had in me and this one girl (still remember her name Dejon....shocker) went to grab me and I went hog wild on her ass! Went right in her face, yelled at her and didn't need to touch her and they all ran away like fucking pussies!

Since I was in my late teens, no one dare bully me.

Damn. I never ran into any situation where I felt scared like that or was bullied physically. I was never teased or bullied in elementary school olol I cried if someone was mean to me.
 
my son is in kindergarten and started wrestling this year and he's actually pretty good too...if someone fucks with him, i expect him to defend himself and he knows that...but, if he (or my girls) found himself in a repetitive abuse type situation that he could not handle himself?? that's easy...i hunt down the offending party's parent(s) and i fuck their shit up until they control their child's behavior.



Lol. That is one way to stop your kids from being bullied. Here is something that might interest you. Benito Mussolini was a Elementary School Teacher prior to becoming Italy's Fascist Dictator, believe it or not it is true. Anyway, the story goes that the kids in his class were very unruly and he refused to discipline them, but he would go to the kid's houses and beat-up their parents, lololo, I guess it worked...

Back on topic, I taught high schools social studies for years, I never thought bullying was really a problem, kids are pussies nowadays, not one would have made it growing up in the 70s and 80s.. Bullying was bad back then - fight or flight - is right on! Parents and teachers condoned fighting on the sly...
 
what the fuck???

damn, you must have went to a rough school.

what a bunch of chickenshits. 5 dudes against 1 girl?

none of the schools i went to would have anything like that happened. if it did, it would have been a shitstorm.

girl on girl violence is one thing...

It actually was a good school with a bunch of privileged kids. I think that was part of the problem. The administration had a "talk" with everyone involved and their parents and all that came of it was detentions for some of the boys. That only made things worse.
 
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Lol. That is one way to stop your kids from being bullied. Here is something that might interest you. Benito Mussolini was a Elementary School Teacher prior to becoming Italy's Fascist Dictator, believe it or not it is true. Anyway, the story goes that the kids in his class were very unruly and he refused to discipline them, but he would go to the kid's houses and beat-up their parents, lololo, I guess it worked...

Back on topic, I taught high schools social studies for years, I never thought bullying was really a problem, kids are pussies nowadays, not one would have made it growing up in the 70s and 80s.. Bullying was bad back then - fight or flight - is right on! Parents and teachers condoned fighting on the sly...

honestly?? there's no damn bullying nowadays...unless you count the sissy-ass electronic bullying bullshit...and, you need look no further than the boys that are wearing eye makeup and skinny jeans (girl's one's for chrissakes) that they bought at the deb, to school...that shit wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes when i was in school...a (female) teacher acquintance recently told me that she thinks we need to bring back bullying to get rid of some of the nancy-boy bullshit that we have in schools now...bunch of fuggin' freaks walking around, attracting attention to themselves and they are encouraged to do so...not my son! he's enrolled in a sport where the required equipment is a very manly, clingy, nylon/lycra, singlet! :lmao:
 
My son was bullied badly in 6th grade and it was a very frustrating and powerless feeling as a parent. The school could only do so much, the parents were like Blueta said...bullies themselves and eventually I pulled him from that school.

I work on a children's psychiatric unit and outside of the truly mentally ill (psychotic, bi polar etc) I would say at least 80% of our suicide attempts that get admitted cite bullying as one of the factors. This would be for the kids who are making a real attempt and the kids who make a pseudo attempt. It's interesting that often parents are completely unaware of the bullying or have some idea but don't view it nearly as significant as the child does. Not in all cases...just more an observation I've noted over time.
 
My son was bullied badly in 6th grade and it was a very frustrating and powerless feeling as a parent. The school could only do so much, the parents were like Blueta said...bullies themselves and eventually I pulled him from that school.

I work on a children's psychiatric unit and outside of the truly mentally ill (psychotic, bi polar etc) I would say at least 80% of our suicide attempts that get admitted cite bullying as one of the factors. This would be for the kids who are making a real attempt and the kids who make a pseudo attempt. It's interesting that often parents are completely unaware of the bullying or have some idea but don't view it nearly as significant as the child does. Not in all cases...just more an observation I've noted over time.

based on your work experience, would you say that bullying is worse or would you say that kids have less coping skills (and ass-beating skills) nowadays compared to back in the day??

just curious, since you have experience in the field.
 
My son was bullied badly in 6th grade and it was a very frustrating and powerless feeling as a parent. The school could only do so much, the parents were like Blueta said...bullies themselves and eventually I pulled him from that school.

I work on a children's psychiatric unit and outside of the truly mentally ill (psychotic, bi polar etc) I would say at least 80% of our suicide attempts that get admitted cite bullying as one of the factors. This would be for the kids who are making a real attempt and the kids who make a pseudo attempt. It's interesting that often parents are completely unaware of the bullying or have some idea but don't view it nearly as significant as the child does. Not in all cases...just more an observation I've noted over time.
Neat.

Why not tell the child to hit back? If he's not strong enough, then why not tell him to use a chair? Or a wrench? Or something like that? The average person won't cross a certain line (no, not murder or anything like that). Why not be willing to cross that line?

I think that parents minimize the bullying because their memories of their own experiences are from along time ago.


On a less serious note, so if I fake a mental illness and get transferred to your ward, I'll get to spend more quality 1 / 1 time with you? Excellent.
 
honestly?? there's no damn bullying nowadays...unless you count the sissy-ass electronic bullying bullshit...and, you need look no further than the boys that are wearing eye makeup and skinny jeans (girl's one's for chrissakes) that they bought at the deb, to school...that shit wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes when i was in school...a (female) teacher acquintance recently told me that she thinks we need to bring back bullying to get rid of some of the nancy-boy bullshit that we have in schools now...bunch of fuggin' freaks walking around, attracting attention to themselves and they are encouraged to do so...not my son! he's enrolled in a sport where the required equipment is a very manly, clingy, nylon/lycra, singlet! :lmao:
Not a libertarian, eh? A person can do whatever the hell they want as long as they don't bother me and don't hamper my quality of life and I don't have to pay for it.

Could you make a comparison to the Slutwalk? It would be terrible if the female teacher, her daughter, her granddaughter got raped if any of them wore something too revealing.

Then again, a female friend of mine who did get raped completely changed her life and vowed never to suffer like that again. Changed her perspective on life immediately.
 
My son was bullied badly in 6th grade and it was a very frustrating and powerless feeling as a parent. The school could only do so much, the parents were like Blueta said...bullies themselves and eventually I pulled him from that school.

I work on a children's psychiatric unit and outside of the truly mentally ill (psychotic, bi polar etc) I would say at least 80% of our suicide attempts that get admitted cite bullying as one of the factors. This would be for the kids who are making a real attempt and the kids who make a pseudo attempt. It's interesting that often parents are completely unaware of the bullying or have some idea but don't view it nearly as significant as the child does. Not in all cases...just more an observation I've noted over time.


I know a guy who's son was bullied so bad he pulled him from school. My oldest is a popular football player, and over the last year, has grown to be a pretty big kid. I talked to my son and told him the problems this boy was having. He befriended this kid and when the boy started school he introduced him to other kids creating a network for the boy to turn to if he had any problems.

The boy has been going to my son's school for over a month now and as far as I know he is doing well.

I wonder if we had a big brother system like that in place it would help some of the kids that are getting bullied.
 
I'm with digi...If my son is ever in a situation where he can no longer take care of himself with a bully I will kick the ever lovin' shit out of his parents.

balee dat
 
Not a libertarian, eh? A person can do whatever the hell they want as long as they don't bother me and don't hamper my quality of life and I don't have to pay for it.

Could you make a comparison to the Slutwalk? It would be terrible if the female teacher, her daughter, her granddaughter got raped if any of them wore something too revealing.

Then again, a female friend of mine who did get raped completely changed her life and vowed never to suffer like that again. Changed her perspective on life immediately.

oh, i think she (my teacher friend) was just blowing off a little steam...and she'd had a couple of beers so, i doubt that she was actually advocating physical violence for dressing like a :rainbow: but, i'm sure there is a grain of truth to it...many people are confused and disturbed by the blurring of the various lines that were in place for so many years...and, many of those lines were simply a result of basic, undeniable differences between the sexes...and yes, i'm actually very much a libertarian...you can live however you want, but if you fuck with any of my shit (especially my wife and kids) in the process of "living how you want", i will chop your fucking head off, whip out my cawk and piss down your neck hole.
 
I know that it's bad for some people, but I don't get why they decided to self harm.

I tell my kids to attack back. Is he bigger then you? Use a chair. Worst case, they're kicked out and they get home schooled or I switch them to private school.

Cause they can't see the forest for the trees. Younger people don't always get the complete picture on life. They think grade school high school is everything. Little do they know the kid teasing the shit out of them is more than likely going to be shine there shoes or close to it in about 10-15 years. Self esteem is a hard thing to teach at any age but it should be a course we take all through life.
 
I know a guy who's son was bullied so bad he pulled him from school. My oldest is a popular football player, and over the last year, has grown to be a pretty big kid. I talked to my son and told him the problems this boy was having. He befriended this kid and when the boy started school he introduced him to other kids creating a network for the boy to turn to if he had any problems.

The boy has been going to my son's school for over a month now and as far as I know he is doing well.

I wonder if we had a big brother system like that in place it would help some of the kids that are getting bullied.

Love the avi V!! :)

I think it would make a difference for sure for some of these kids in schools. It's amazing the difference one can make!!
 
Neat.

Why not tell the child to hit back? If he's not strong enough, then why not tell him to use a chair? Or a wrench? Or something like that? The average person won't cross a certain line (no, not murder or anything like that). Why not be willing to cross that line?

I think that parents minimize the bullying because their memories of their own experiences are from along time ago.


On a less serious note, so if I fake a mental illness and get transferred to your ward, I'll get to spend more quality 1 / 1 time with you? Excellent.

LOL..you'll have to lie down on the couch and tell me all your secrets!

Believe me, I definitely got to the point of trying to toughen him up but he, at that time, was a pretty anxious kid, with very poor coping skills and it led to panic attacks, rather then the desire to fight back. I didn't actually see it in him until that time but we've worked really hard to learn some skills and he's a different kid now...5 years later. :)
 
based on your work experience, would you say that bullying is worse or would you say that kids have less coping skills (and ass-beating skills) nowadays compared to back in the day??

just curious, since you have experience in the field.

I think that technology has added a whole new dimension to bullying. It's so much easier and kids can be so much more cruel and reach a higher population with whatever they are saying. The other aspect is that kids are exposed to so much more then I ever remember being so often the issues they get bullied over seem so much more complex. For example, we see a lot of kids who are "bisexual" because it's like a trend and then end up doing something and the word spreads and everyone teases them, makes fun etc.

Kids do seem to have less coping skills these days and I'm not sure if it's because society has changed so much? parents and families are that much busier? more exposure to things? A combination of all of that maybe.
 
I know a guy who's son was bullied so bad he pulled him from school. My oldest is a popular football player, and over the last year, has grown to be a pretty big kid. I talked to my son and told him the problems this boy was having. He befriended this kid and when the boy started school he introduced him to other kids creating a network for the boy to turn to if he had any problems.

The boy has been going to my son's school for over a month now and as far as I know he is doing well.

I wonder if we had a big brother system like that in place it would help some of the kids that are getting bullied.



Hey V,, This is to you,,,,

I have to say That's is a FINE young man you have there. You should be extremely proud of him. No one will mess with the kid cause they know your son would crush them!!!
I feel bullying is bad. I get all the macho bullshit guys are saying on here but everyone is not going to an aggressive macho fighting guy like RAMBO it just isn't being realistic, & IMHO that's ok

These bullies pray on the weak kids. they wouldn't dare mess with someone that can carry themselves well. So they target the shy quiet type.. Its easy to say "go hit them with a chair" or what ever but some kids just aren't able too & again there is nothing wrong with that imo..

It sucks for them that they have to endure this treatment by these punks who get off on making others feel like shit.. If more kids would be like YOUR SON there would be a lot less bullying going on. It's hard enough for these kids today. Most kids just want to fit in. Plus we have guns & knives today. These punks are too scared to use their hands they are real tough when they have a gun tho..

I have 3 girls & 1 little boy. I teach my kids to never follow the crowd. If any of their friends are bulling anyone they better straighten their friend out or I will straighten my kids out.

Any way I am rambling in my old age,, But give that kid of yours a pat on the back for me!!!
 
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It's funny I was actually talking to a friend about this not long ago. He was small as kid shorter looked younger etc. He started a new school and a bigger kid in the same grade started pushing him a round. So one day after school he beat the holy hell out of the kid. The next day kids older brother came up to him said I heard your beat the shit out of my brother. He said yes do you have a problem with that I can do it to you too. LOL

The guy was 2 years older looked at him said boy you better hit the weights before taking me on. So that day my friend went home started lifting weights. About 6 months later he'd grown a lot was way stronger went back up to the older brother was like I been lifting weights like you said when do I get my shot at you.

This guy has now broken world records in powerlifting and bench press. Back in the day people could take this shit as motivation to better themselves.
 
I think that technology has added a whole new dimension to bullying. It's so much easier and kids can be so much more cruel and reach a higher population with whatever they are saying. The other aspect is that kids are exposed to so much more then I ever remember being so often the issues they get bullied over seem so much more complex. For example, we see a lot of kids who are "bisexual" because it's like a trend and then end up doing something and the word spreads and everyone teases them, makes fun etc.

Kids do seem to have less coping skills these days and I'm not sure if it's because society has changed so much? parents and families are that much busier? more exposure to things? A combination of all of that maybe.

coping is learned behavior and for a lot of years now, most kids have been raised in a house where they aren't trained to handle issues as they arise...instead, mommy and daddy come running the the "rescue" (they're not really rescuing them) and they blame everyone else...it's the school's fault, it's the legal system's fault, it's mcdonald's fault (that my kid is a fat ass) etc...kids aren't trained to take responsibility for themselves and their actions...it's always everyone else's fault...and part of it is societal...if you take repsonsibility for anything in our society, there's some friggin' lawyer standing there waiting to sue everyone...the adults have been trained to not take responsibility and then they train their kids the same way...it's horseshit.

my kids (especially my girls...they're almost 12 now) probably think i'm a complete dork but, when we are standing out front in the morning waiting for the school bus i make them give me a kiss on the cheek and i make them recite the following phrase EVERY DAY..."we will take responsibility for everything we do today, whether it's good or bad"...i'm right...society is wrong.

my humble opinion.
 
coping is learned behavior and for a lot of years now, most kids have been raised in a house where they aren't trained to handle issues as they arise...instead, mommy and daddy come running the the "rescue" (they're not really rescuing them) and they blame everyone else...it's the school's fault, it's the legal system's fault, it's mcdonald's fault (that my kid is a fat ass) etc...kids aren't trained to take responsibility for themselves and their actions...it's always everyone else's fault...and part of it is societal...if you take repsonsibility for anything in our society, there's some friggin' lawyer standing there waiting to sue everyone...the adults have been trained to not take responsibility and then they train their kids the same way...it's horseshit.

my kids (especially my girls...they're almost 12 now) probably think i'm a complete dork but, when we are standing out front in the morning waiting for the school bus i make them give me a kiss on the cheek and i make them recite the following phrase EVERY DAY..."we will take responsibility for everything we do today, whether it's good or bad"...i'm right...society is wrong.

my humble opinion.
Geez, what happens in 10 years when your girls tell you about A2M?
 
I think that technology has added a whole new dimension to bullying. It's so much easier and kids can be so much more cruel and reach a higher population with whatever they are saying. The other aspect is that kids are exposed to so much more then I ever remember being so often the issues they get bullied over seem so much more complex. For example, we see a lot of kids who are "bisexual" because it's like a trend and then end up doing something and the word spreads and everyone teases them, makes fun etc.

Kids do seem to have less coping skills these days and I'm not sure if it's because society has changed so much? parents and families are that much busier? more exposure to things? A combination of all of that maybe.

Lol. What are they going to do text someone to death or assault someone with their ipod???

Here are three shocking conclusions:

1). Parents are pretty much psychologically unstable nowadays (engrossed with economic
apprehension, and they signed a "guilt clause" because their parents were hard on them).

2). Entirely too many single moms (lack of strong male figure).

3). The education system peddles counterculture ideas.
 
Lol. What are they going to do text someone to death or assault someone with their ipod???

Here are three shocking conclusions:

1). Parents are pretty much psychologically unstable nowadays (engrossed with economic
apprehension, and they signed a "guilt clause" because their parents were hard on them).

2). Entirely too many single moms (lack of strong male figure).

3). The education system peddles counterculture ideas.

Fuck - agree with a lot of what Ledhead is saying here.
 
I agree that cyber bullying can get out of hand, back in the day bullying was a bit more physical and it happened mostly at school or on your way to school, nowadays due to technology it doesnt stop at all! they facebook, they chat, they text, they tweet, they upload videos, etc so kid gets home from being bullied and checks their facebook and sees a bunch of shit, or gets random messages, etc it doesnt stop at school anymore and this constant bombarding is more than a lot of them can handle, it gets really really bad, there is a reason why laws are being passed against it now, it's true society is getting softer and coping skills have declined but bullying has also escalated.

Those of you with kids I highly recommend that you watch the movie Cyberbully
 
Cyber bullying is parents' fault too. There's no reason young kids should be on Facebook or Twitter or whatever. I don't know why the age to join those sites is 13 and up (especially when kids under 13 lie to get on all the time). 13 year olds are just not mature enough to be allowed to gather like that on the Internet, nor should they be on sharing personal info like that for obvious safety reasons but that's another story.

Parents allow their kids on there. It's sick. Then when their kid gets in trouble, parents try to take it away but the damage has been done and the kid is already addicted. The kid is going to find a way back on. Parents need to not allow kids to be on those sites from the get go. You wouldn't let a group of 100 13 year olds hang out alone, why would you leave them alone online?

And those sites need to raise and enforce the minimum age allowed.
 
My kid is 13 and just recently got on FB. But, we monitor him online with the use of NetNanny. Inappropriate posts or private messages get sent to our email. My kid really just uses FB to chat with his friends and post funny YouTube vids. Plus he's friends with everyone at school, he's not a kid that would ever bully or ever be bullied
 
Also it's real easy to say what you won't allow your teenager to do but unless or until you have a kid/teenager, you really don't know how things will actually go. Plus, it starts with what you teach them at home about what is and is not acceptable as far as interacting with others be it online or in person.
 
Lol. What are they going to do text someone to death or assault someone with their ipod???

Here are three shocking conclusions:

1). Parents are pretty much psychologically unstable nowadays (engrossed with economic
apprehension, and they signed a "guilt clause" because their parents were hard on them).

2). Entirely too many single moms (lack of strong male figure).

3). The education system peddles counterculture ideas.


I agree with your conclusions ^^. I do think technology plays a role though...I've seen kids who have attempted to take their own life based on texts, facebook etc and I've seen cases where charges are laid because of those texts/ emails. They may be the extreme cases and not the norm of society but it absolutely plays a role.
 
Also it's real easy to say what you won't allow your teenager to do but unless or until you have a kid/teenager, you really don't know how things will actually go. Plus, it starts with what you teach them at home about what is and is not acceptable as far as interacting with others be it online or in person.

I agree. Ultimately, it still comes back to parenting and teaching our kids, giving them coping skills and teaching them how to be responsible.
 
I agree with your conclusions ^^. I do think technology plays a role though...I've seen kids who have attempted to take their own life based on texts, facebook etc and I've seen cases where charges are laid because of those texts/ emails. They may be the extreme cases and not the norm of society but it absolutely plays a role.


I agree with you. I was just getting to the root of the problems. Not to sound like a contradicting prick, but I think it is societies norm to be subject to pop culture especially for kids. Society puts up weird standards that a lot of kids cannot meet and in return you have a bunch of kids who develope bizarre complexes. Consequently, that is why the majority of them are on some kind of psychotropic meds or become suicidal because they cannot live up to those standards.

I work in the education field. I try not to pay attention too much about what the latest fads and trends are. However, you pick up on things here and there and piece them together. The latest fad or trend I noticed is with the girls. Every girl has to have a boyfriend, no matter if they really like that boy or not because all the other girls have boyfriends and they do not want to be dateless on a Friday night because they might be deemed as a social outcast (i actually had girls confess this to me on the sly). Therefore, they settle for anything or anybody to fit in, which is not a good idea as far as I am concerned.. Because through my experiences watching from afar it usually ends in a horrific manner. Then all hell breaks loose, I seen it a thousand times...
 
that's what I'm talking about
the "course" isn't easy
reminds me of the Indian statistics professor
you had to pass MA205 to get a degree
and he cut no slack
was good at ping pong most times I went to the weight room
he was playing ping pong
 
Hey V,, This is to you,,,,

I have to say That's is a FINE young man you have there. You should be extremely proud of him. No one will mess with the kid cause they know your son would crush them!!!
I feel bullying is bad. I get all the macho bullshit guys are saying on here but everyone is not going to an aggressive macho fighting guy like RAMBO it just isn't being realistic, & IMHO that's ok

These bullies pray on the weak kids. they wouldn't dare mess with someone that can carry themselves well. So they target the shy quiet type.. Its easy to say "go hit them with a chair" or what ever but some kids just aren't able too & again there is nothing wrong with that imo..

It sucks for them that they have to endure this treatment by these punks who get off on making others feel like shit.. If more kids would be like YOUR SON there would be a lot less bullying going on. It's hard enough for these kids today. Most kids just want to fit in. Plus we have guns & knives today. These punks are too scared to use their hands they are real tough when they have a gun tho..

I have 3 girls & 1 little boy. I teach my kids to never follow the crowd. If any of their friends are bulling anyone they better straighten their friend out or I will straighten my kids out.

Any way I am rambling in my old age,, But give that kid of yours a pat on the back for me!!!

My mom has cerebral palsy and was bullied constantly, I have a gay cousin that bullied through out high school and my son knows what happened to them. He also knows what happened to me. So he has a different perspective which I think has given him more empathy.

I am very proud of him, he's a real good kid.


And Thanks:)
 
Lol. What are they going to do text someone to death or assault someone with their ipod???

Here are three shocking conclusions:

1). Parents are pretty much psychologically unstable nowadays (engrossed with economic
apprehension, and they signed a "guilt clause" because their parents were hard on them).

2). Entirely too many single moms (lack of strong male figure).

3). The education system peddles counterculture ideas.


I don't entirely agree with #2. I think it's lack of a strong single mother and responsible male figure.

I think men play an important role when raising children, but I also think if a woman is strong enough she can compensate for that missing piece. The problem is that our nurturing side gets in the way.

I know a woman who raised her kids on her own, no real male role model, and her boys are awesome.
 
So this thread made me think, Im ex spec war, have known many many bad ass, iron willed, barbed wire gut men and women. I know some tough s-o-b bikers, mma guys, etc. What is common (from the ones I know personally) is none of them were bullies, you would think that some of them would have been, but not the ones I know. I think whatever is going on in most bullies heads is way more than just a momma never loved me deal...Genetic possibly?

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honestly?? there's no damn bullying nowadays...unless you count the sissy-ass electronic bullying bullshit...and, you need look no further than the boys that are wearing eye makeup and skinny jeans (girl's one's for chrissakes) that they bought at the deb, to school...that shit wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes when i was in school...a (female) teacher acquintance recently told me that she thinks we need to bring back bullying to get rid of some of the nancy-boy bullshit that we have in schools now...bunch of fuggin' freaks walking around, attracting attention to themselves and they are encouraged to do so...not my son! he's enrolled in a sport where the required equipment is a very manly, clingy, nylon/lycra, singlet! :lmao:


God. Reading shit like this makes me never want to have kids. Society is circling the toilet.
 
God. Reading shit like this makes me never want to have kids. Society is circling the toilet.

kids are what you make them...my girls are dancers/musicians/ artists and they are also excellent students...my son is only in kindergarten but he is a soccer player/football player/baseball player/wrestler (hence the singlet) and he is also an excellent student...and all three of them are very respectful but they also know that they are expected to not eat anyone's shit.

my wife and i teach them, train them and we are actively involved in all of their activities. will all three of them always be good people, all of the time? meh, probably not...kids make mistakes, but you correct them and then you move on. but having rules and boundries and (sometimes lofty) expectations, and communicating those will go a long way toward ensuring that they eventually become good citizens and productive members of society.
 
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