In my Addiction class...

[evansteve]

Yesterday in my Addiction and Recovery class, we talked about different addictions that people have, all kinds of them, alcohol, drugs, gambling, porn, etc.

One thing that is kinda unique about the school I go to, is that it takes on a very Christian perspective (private school) and one thing which is basically stated almost like a fundamental truth in our class, is that "It is impossible to break away from a serious addiction without the power of God helping you"

I thought about that for a second, and asked myself, "well what about the atheists?" or the people and programs that focuse on other ways aside from spirituality to get rid of their addictions?

For example, one of the first steps of alcoholics anonymous, is to admit that you need help from a Higher Power (God) in order to get free from your problem.

So what do the atheist alcoholics do?

 

[The Heretic1]

Organized religion is shit. You don't need a Church to tell you how to find God. Your post just solidify's that argument.

 

[velvett]

Rely on themselves.





















and that mysterious voice in their heads...

 

[evansteve]

Rely on themselves.

does it actually work though?

do you actually know of any alcoholics who were atheist, and still were able to overcome their alcohol addiction?

 

[H_T_]

alcoholics are never cured, we walk that tightrope for good..............

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

do you actually know of any alcoholics who were atheist, and still were able to overcome their alcohol addiction?

Yeah














......me

 

[velvett]

does it actually work though?

do you actually know of any alcoholics who were atheist, and still were able to overcome their alcohol addiction?

My uncle.




















Of course he's dead now from all the damage done on his liver from all the vodka he drank....

 

[onebigab]

Get a pair of fucking balls and some willpower.

Then you can break your addiction.

 

[The Shadow]

My uncle.




















Of course he's dead now from all the damage done on his liver from all the vodka he drank....

My uncle as well.......

 

[bran987]

My uncle.



Of course he's dead now from all the damage done on his liver from all the vodka he drank....

how much did he drink/

 

[jnevin]

Shadow's a good orb. He gave me the extra little bit of insight to go to a meeting. I'll be getting back to you on those 5 reasons... Thanks, seriously.

But anyhoo, about the god part. I don't think it's god per se that you need to find as much as some sort of power outside of booze. You can do it man, keep with it.

 

[The Shadow]

Shadow's a good orb. He gave me the extra little bit of insight to go to a meeting. I'll be getting back to you on those 5 reasons... Thanks, seriously.

But anyhoo, about the god part. I don't think it's god per se that you need to find as much as some sort of power outside of booze. You can do it man, keep with it.

I was just about to pm you........

 

[jnevin]

I was just about to pm you........

I'm psychic. You never know, you may have helped save my life. Funnt to think how giving 5 minutes to a stranger could do that...

 

[LeeJunFan]

Get a pair of fucking balls and some willpower.

Then you can break your addiction.

That's exactly what I did when I quit smoking, drinking and doing drugs, although my motivation was Bruce Lee and I don't think I would have quit had it been for him.

 

[BrandonXJ]

That's exactly what I did when I quit smoking...

I'm chewing this damn nicorette shit right now.. I can tell you for a fact that there is no God, because no way would God let anything taste this bad

 

[Lestat]

alocholics anonymous isn't all that effective anyway... most people relapse.

You don't need "god" to overcome an addiction... but if the idea of a god is what helps get you through, then more power to you.

 

[jnevin]

alocholics anonymous isn't all that effective anyway... most people relapse.

You don't need "god" to overcome an addiction... but if the idea of a god is what helps get you through, then more power to you.

AA has been proven to help millions of people. A relapse isn't the worst thing to happen to someone, either. It could actually be a great thing to show where you don't want to be again. If it doesn't work, find something else. Your life is worth it.

 

[The Shadow]

I'm psychic. You never know, you may have helped save my life. Funnt to think how giving 5 minutes to a stranger could do that...

I wanna know...pm when you are ready

 

[IHateAmerica]

AA has been proven to be no more effective than quitting cold turkey. Here's Penn and Tellers Bullshit on the 12 steps program:

http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3315.html

 

[sasharawkz]

I give props to anyone who's quit an addiction...by any means. I've also quit smoking, drugs and now, I drink social. My problem with AA however is how they want you to admit you are powerless to your addiction..if I was powerless, I wouldn't have quit

Cheers to anyone trying to overcome a huge obstacle...you can do it!

 

[Lestat]

AA has been proven to help millions of people. A relapse isn't the worst thing to happen to someone, either. It could actually be a great thing to show where you don't want to be again. If it doesn't work, find something else. Your life is worth it.

if you think it helps millions are you falling victim to their propaganda. Its a religious organization that doesn't release true data on its effectiveness and results.

Its not without merit completely, but I think it can also be a dangerous thing.