I'm really considering just staying "on" (blast/cruise) looking for some vet help

[goal245]

thanks for your input mate. i am planning on competing as soon as possible myself. just need to get into shape for it.

how long have you been on? how are you finding it and also how have done in your shows??

I did my first show a year ago natural. came in at 200lbs 6' and won the overall.
I then got a 500 test and 400 deca for 12 weeks and got up to 265lbs. Then 6 weeks off time.Then started 12 weeks 700 prop 350 tren, cut down to 235. Then 6 weeks off. And now im on 1000 test, 600 deca, 700 tren at 255lbs about 12%.

Im about to start cutting for a couple of shows so i will be running high dosages for at least 4-5 more months and then trt.

 

[ishaq]

considered need2's bridge? reports say its shit hot so maybe worth considering for the long run..your receptors may get used to the gear? test nd hormones are a scary thing to fuck with but not tryna give you advice just thought id add some friendly input.

 

[goal245]

considered need2's bridge? reports say its shit hot so maybe worth considering for the long run..your receptors may get used to the gear? test nd hormones are a scary thing to fuck with but not tryna give you advice just thought id add some friendly input.

There is no evidence that the receptors down regulate and that you need time off to clean them out. There are studies that show androgen receptor upregulation in response to aas.

 

[ishaq]

There is no evidence that the receptors down regulate and that you need time off to clean them out. There are studies that show androgen receptor upregulation in response to aas.

Then how come you keep upping your mg's in your cycles why not keep with 500 test and 400 deca i believe you wrote? not trying to argue more understand?

 

[goal245]

Then how come you keep upping your mg's in your cycles why not keep with 500 test and 400 deca i believe you wrote? not trying to argue more understand?

With each cycle a person adds new muscle tissue, the new muscle has new receptors, it will take more juice to fill more receptors. Also myostatin levels increase (myostatin is produced in muscle tissue), more muscle = more myostatin. I think increased myostatin levels is the main cause of slowed muscle growth during cycles. There isnt much you can do to control your myostatin levels, studies shows that levels rise significantly around week 10 of a cycle and then return to baseline around week 20 regardless if you are still on juice or not and it continues in this fashion. this is the reason why blast and cruise methods work.

They need to hurry up and make follistain readily available so that we can all get huge.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

What was Needtos bridge again. I can't seem to find it.

 

[ishaq]

What was Needtos bridge again. I can't seem to find it.

needtobuildmuscle.com pct section

 

[Dogfox]

Firstly from that pic your not 10%.

Secondly, altho i think this idea is retarded, to ensure you can have kids look into freezing your sperm. Obviously cost a bit of money per year for storage and I think anything over 10 years is advised against (altho some claim the storage can be much longer).

Thirdly make sure you have a good, legit, and most importantly constant supply.

Fourthly i feel your test levels are more than adequate its probably just in your genes. And the fact that steroids can close the gap has caused almost an addiction in you. I say this because there are not many guys your age (like me) who would consider doing this. Now id say i have pretty good genes and unlike you a massively rapidly fast metabolism, so perhaps im not the best measure. However the only ppl i can see making a decision like yours would be pros or people like Guy Shaffer.

Fifthly, remember that kids isnt the only issue with TRT. Hair, prostate, BP etc. are all affected to some degree. It would truely suck if you had no hair, a football sized prostate, and a 30000/20000 BP. Obviously I exagerrate. Nonetheless TRT requires a strict regime in order to prevent the undesired sides associated with exogenous T.

Sixthly, Im no expert in the matter and talking with the vets - such as Joe D and needto will provide you with yet further insight into the matter.

Hope this helps,

Dogfox

 

[gotballs]

Fuck that... not till im 30! Ive considered the same thing but decided to do 2 long cycles a year 4 months on 2 off then 4 on 2 off again with a solid pct

Agree with CK. Im 29, almost 30 and might consider it in a few yrs. I use the juice, but also want to make gains without it. 50/50. THINK ON IT FOR A WHILE

 

[lander2312]

I know you dont want to hear this but I think it needs to be said. There are people that complete and then there are people that compete and win. I know you have been with omega's training program (seen the posts) and I would think he will agree with this statement. People who make a living competing and getting sponsorships like you hope for have more than just using steroids...they have great genetics. on any given day they would look better than 90% on this forum not even using gear. Then they use gear and look the way you see them on stage. You have even said in your post that you dont have great genetics. I agree with dogfox, I think this has become an addiction to you and I hope you seek out omegas advice because I cant see him being honest and telling you to go for it. PLus look at it this way. If your willing to dedicate this much now then why not stay this focused and if you think you still want to do it in 3 years from now then look at it again. Brother I am not saying this to flame...or set you out but you posted it up asking so my answer is you need to evaulate your goals cause I dont think, and by your own words, you dont have the genetics to compete and make a living at this. OF course my opinion is worth waht you paid for it...lol
Good luck Bro