HUCK , MACRO , FONZ , vets , mods -Can you still GROW on a VERY LOW CALORIE diet ?

[Jenetic]

training was = weight training 4-5 x a week and aerobics 4 x a week.

maronutrients ratio was like this = 250 g of protein , 200 g of carbs and 75 g of fat = 2.500 cals .

Victor

Thanks for your input Huck.

Keeping in mind all the topics and factors raised in this discussion, is the above diet that he was on fit accordingly? I am a bit confused when I look at the all the statistics that he has presented.

Karma to everyone who put forth the thought and effort in making a substantiated post in this discussion.

 

[Jenetic]

The only dispute here would be did it happen in this particular case.

 

[solidspine]

With PRIMO & TEST you can still grow on a low calorie diet, throw growth in the mix and I suspect you would gain even more.

 

[georgie24]

oh yes when can omega...

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Well his macro intake would not work for me personally to achieve those end results,but his metabolism may make better usage of the carbs and protein than mine.For me,that protein would be too low,carbs too high,but for someone else that protein may be enough to build on,and that amount of carbs MIGHT be enough to sustain ATP populations without skewing insulin release(and causing the system to store BF).It really is a genetic individuality issue here.What works for one person may not for another.Simultanious BF loss coupled with LBM gain is certainly a challenge for literally anyone,but it can be achieved in the right hormonal/nutritional environment.Endomorphs like myself probably have a harder time than anyone achieving such a feat.

 

[georgie24]

huck right now im on primo/winny and i had to switch to ckd style diet. lets just say im really satisfied so far. although winny is ravishing my joints im still cutting up and not getting flat so far

 

[Fonz]

Personally, if I couldn't meet my caloric requirements due to whatever cause and still wanted to grow i would use:

Tren 75mg ED/Winstrol 50mg ED(or EOD)/Anavar 50mg ED

Winstrol, Trenbolone, and Anavar are the best AAS at increasing Nitrogen retention, and therfore letting you gain muscle even at hypocaloric diets.
Of course, like Huck said eating enough protein is totally essential. No protein = no nitrogen.

 

[VictorBR]

The only dispute here would be did it happen in this particular case.

>>> Well , I don't see why my statistics looks confuse to you . It is pretty simple actually , + 10 lbs of muscle and -15 lbs of FAT , eating 2500 cals .
Of course this is not 100 % accurate I might have gained 8 lbs of muscle and lost 13 lbs of fat ?? but who cares , fact is that it happened to me.

And now that you realized that it is possible , you gotta say that it is possible, but do you hesitate to believe that it did happen in my particular case ? Why is that ?

Well, man It happened , I really don't understand why do you hesitate to believe this

That is why I told you before that I can grow like a mofo , I never DID a bulking cycle OR a bulking diet on my life ( i am always dieting with restricted cals to lose the damn fat ) but I have 17.5 guns and 222 lbs , now body fat is a bit high at 15-16 % , I can gain fat easily , but I can grow like a weed just by looking at food .


Victor

 

[VictorBR]

Personally, if I couldn't meet my caloric requirements due to whatever cause and still wanted to grow i would use:

Tren 75mg ED/Winstrol 50mg ED(or EOD)/Anavar 50mg ED

Winstrol, Trenbolone, and Anavar are the best AAS at increasing Nitrogen retention, and therfore letting you gain muscle even at hypocaloric diets.
Of course, like Huck said eating enough protein is totally essential. No protein = no nitrogen.

>>> Maybe that is why I gained that much , because of the WIN . LEgit zambons , the best ones . I was doing it 50 mg EOD , some weeks ( only a few of those 8 ) 100 mg EOD .... I want some var for my next cycle .


Victor

 

[georgie24]

winny is the sickest steroid!