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How to talk someone out of juice?

c3bodybuilding

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How to talk someone out of taking juice?

Ok, my sisters b/f, is 30 years old, 6'3 185-188 soaking wet. He has been 'training' (if you can call it that) for about 2 years now. He doesn't believe in really training back, other than a couple set of pull ups, and says his legs get worked enough from running. He basically trains arms, chest and 'abs'. He does no shoulder work either. He eats a couple subway sandwiches day with double meat, and some cereal, maybe a coupe slices of pizza. He thinks if you eat more than that, you will get fat. He is built like a pencil (straight up and down), and should have NO fear of getting fat. So, he wants to do a cycle of eq (he found someone who offered it to him at a gym). He said he wants to "add a lil to my upper body, chest, arms and tone the stomach." Now, I am trying to talk him out of it, but not working too well. I tried taking him to the gym with me, to train him. I had him do dips, deads, bench, rows, chins, etc. He didn't like it too much, and the next week went back, but did his 'rouine' which was: triceps: cablepress downs 3 sets, cable press downs with a bar 3 sets, kickbacks 3 sets, abs: a shit load of crap, then cardio! What kind of crap is this?! I have helped a shit load of people. I am taking my time with this guy, and for free. I just don't know if I sould let him do that cycle, and learn on his own, or continue to try and talk him out of it. Any opinions? He keeps asking for my help, and I am very patient and nice about it, and every time I write up a routine, or offer to take him with me to the gym, he sorta acts like a know it all, and blows off my advice. I'm sorta getting frustrated, my sisters boyfriend or not!
 
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LOLOLOL! I never even thought of that! I was more worried about him maybe getting hurt. The guy wanted him to buy d-bol and just take 8 or so pills a day, because and I quote "with d-bol you don't have to work hard to gain, the guy told me you could just sit at home and gain muscle.with eq you would need to work really hard to gain something" So, I just saw visions of him popping 10pills a day, injecting a shit load of eq, and next thing you know, in the hospital. I guess some people should be left to learn on their own.
 
All you can do is give him straight talk. He's a big boy and will do what he pleases. He is looking for the easy way.
 
Tell him that all steroids give you roid gut, so no six pack for him.
Also tell him you lose 50% of your gains post cycle but you keep your roid gut unless your VERY smart about diet and training.

If he is going bald tell him that will get about 50% worse since he is 30, hehe, he will believe it.

Also say eq is for the top pros and really attacks the liver.

If he has joint problems say steroids make your bones brittle and really wears out joints.

Just casually mention these.

C3, if this guy does juice he is gonna look like a dork, if he even gets any results at all.
 
LOL You guys give some great advice! I never would have come up with some of this on my own! I talked to him about some of it, and told him his balding will get worse. He shaves his head, so he didn't panic too much. I think next up is roid gut, brittle joints, and I think I'll throw in drug testing for his job (I'll tell him they test for that stuff). I feel horrible having to lie like this, but I tried to straight talk him. He blew it off, and it did no good. So, if the bs doesn't work, he is on his on. I will tell my sister that I tried my best, and I don't want any hurt feelings.
 
Just let him try it. As long as you keep him away from orals, he probably won't do much damage regardless of what he does. I mean, what is the worst he is going to do -- shoot 2g EQ per week? If you really want to talk him out of it, just be honest. Tell him that unless he works his ass off, he won't see improved results, and that even if he does everything right during the cycle, there is a good chance that he will have to go through 4-8 weeks of no libido, decreasing strength and just generally feeling like crap after the cycle. If he still wants to do it, let him. You are not his parent. Just keep him away from the orals.
 
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