How to Stretch out EQ to 12 weeks

[Pump2356]

Hey

I was going to do 10 weeks of test/eq since I didn't think I could increase the eq to 12 weeks with two 10ml vials without spending/wasting most of another vial. My original plan was to do the eq at 400mg for 10 weeks, what if I pyramided the dose of equipose starting with weeks 1-8 at 300mg , then weeks 9-12 at 400mg? I can then just pick up two more amps for the test enth.

The test Im using along with it it supposed to be overdosed at 300mg an amp(ICN Galenika) and keep in mind this is my first cycle.

Thank you

 

[Mac173]

I would just run the test by itself and save the eq for next cycle. That's not high enough or long enough for eq.

 

[solidspine]

You get better result from eq on long cycles 12-14 weeks,

So


Run it longer

 

[Malcolme]

Do the 400mg of EQ the first few weeks, not the last, to build the levels up. Given the length of esters involved you are in reality doing a 12+ week course. You are taking plenty enough gear for a first timer and can expect to gain plenty. Don't worry about the gear any more - concentrate on great training (but definitely NOT overtraining), great eating and great resting......these other things combined actually comprise a greater part of the equation than gear alone.

 

[Mrpumped]

Why are you trying to make this complicated? Buy more EQ. If you would have done more research you would have known not to do EQ for a first cycle. Test e or c at 500mg/ wk. is good enough for a first cycle. Since you have the EQ buy more because you need enough to do at least 400mg/wk. for 12-14 wks. to get the best of EQ. Pyramiding gear is not a good idea because all you will do is keep your blood levels uneven. Make sure you use an AI like Aromisan or AIFM throughout the cycle into PCT. Get some HCG, Nolva, Clomid and Aromisan or AIFM for PCT.

 

[Pump2356]

Okay thanks guys I'll just buy another vial and run it for 14 weeks.Is it okay to stop the test at week 12 then or will I still get some more use out of it?

Yes mrpumped I'm probably just making that more complicated and trying to be cheap(its the jew in me!)...however; I take offense to your comment about not doing enough research which I have done plenty of and see the repetitive "500" test all the time, but I'm sure we both can agree that doesn't fit everyones goals and time frame(which I posted earlier this month). I asked four IFBB pros at the gym I attend and all gave the same "use deca with test for 12 weeks or don't go off until you reach your goals and change up compounds" But i read on a lot of boards how hard people were shut down on deca so I was hoping equipose would be an better alternative.

But anyways...
just to clarify now..hcg , pct, and ai:

hcg at 250iu twice a week now for weeks 1-14
.25/.5mg of armidex weeks 1-16(?)
is it best to wait 10 or 14 days before starting pct now with the eq?
nolva 40,40,20,20


Thanks!

 

[UFC22]

I barely read this but I see your are going to get more Eq. So if you run the Eq for 14 weeks don't stop the Test at week 10! Get more test too! I'd say stop the Eq at week 14 and the test at week 15. Reason being is that equipoise will take longer to dissipate because of its half-life. Oh yeah and if this is your first cycle I'd say just go with straight up test for 12 weeks at 500-750mgs/EW.

Good luck

 

[blut wump]

Who suggested that ICN Galenika's were over-dosed? They're HG gear and over-dosing by 20% would not be tolerated. They are, however, typically over-filled to allow for the expected wastage in the syringe.

Don't forget to allow for the expected wastage on your vials.

 

[Pump2356]

Would the side-effects of the 750 test enanthate compared to eq 400/test 500(or 600 since overfilled by 1.2) be about the same?

Also, can a first time user really gain more quality mass with 750 of just test in the end when pct is overwith than compared to 500mg of test?

 

[Pump2356]

a reliable guy said overfilled to me, but then said "so 300+"