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how pathetic is this.. a professional basketball player tips my girl 0 dollars on an 83 dollar check..

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HiDnGoD said:
Most of the people in these low paying jobs do it, either because they can't do anything else, or their students, transitining to better jobs, or wives returning to the workforce. All of whom deserve better than minimum wage, which isn't enough to live on.

Like you said many waitresses/waiters are students working part time. Minimum wage isn't designed to "live on". If we expected minimum wage to support a family it would be 20 bucks and hours and most restaurants would go out of business due to excessive labor costs.

Then you'd have a bunch of unemployed waitresses, bus boys, chefs, hostesses, managers, suppliers, truck drivers...
 
a buddy of mine was a server back when we were around 20... the day he got the job he told me black folk didnt tip well... THE DAY HE GOT THE JOB!!!! i asked why? he said he didnt know but thats what his trainer told him...

so, before he even found out for himself he was giving shitty service... and ended up getting 5 bucks from a lot of A.A. folk that went in there... 5 on 30, 5 on 40, despite shitty service.. so he still got some tip even though he didnt perform his job well for them..

seems to be it's preconceived and it's the servers fault.
 
What a jerk! I once worked at a club in Miami. Madonna came in with a huge entourage and not only did she not tip the waitress, she walked out without paying a HUGE tab. I guess celebrities think that just by being there they are helping the reputation of your business. They can sometimes be really arrogant.
 
Madonna's people undoubtedly cleaned that mess up and probably sent a huge tip to the waitress afterward; that's how those things go.

Acting like they are above paying the bill is part of the act for people like Madonna, especially in Miami.
 
if you cannot/will not tip, stay at home with a jar of peanut butter and white bread for chrissakes!
 
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Dial_tone said:
The total. Like most negros I suck at math and it's simpler to just work with the nice big number at the bottom.

lol.....well my wife is a math teacher and she still has to write out a problem like tipping percentages before she will give me the answer. That takes too long.

I did find a restuarant business card with average tipping amounts already figured out on the back of it. When I got it, I thought this is great. I can use this everytime we go out to eat. I hardly ever take it out or see it for that matter unless I am digging for something else in my wallet.

I've always found that when you get the bill just do a quick 10% of the bill total and then half that figure which will be another 5% and add those two together and then I chunk in a little more if I am not doing the 20% deal. I always round up too.

$52.29 X 10% = $5.23

$5.23 / 2 = $2.61

Add those two together = $7.84

I'll add in another $1.50 - $2.00
 
Phaded said:
OH SHIT THE STORY GETS BETTER.. his girlfriend or some girl was with he asked for split checks hers was 27 his was 83.. she left a 3 dollar tip.. i guess that was part of his tip too? wtf? i'm spitting directly in his face next time i see him downtown..
Don't do that. If you want revenge, call him a low class n*gger who needs to go back to his plantation. He'll probably respond by kicking your ass. Then you respond with a 10 million dollar lawsuit :)
 
Longhorn85 said:
Like you said many waitresses/waiters are students working part time. Minimum wage isn't designed to "live on". If we expected minimum wage to support a family it would be 20 bucks and hours and most restaurants would go out of business due to excessive labor costs.

Then you'd have a bunch of unemployed waitresses, bus boys, chefs, hostesses, managers, suppliers, truck drivers...
I see and understand your point. Minimum wage wasn't designed to be a living wage. However many people are trying to live on minimum wage.
Some employers, not just restaurants, are hiring only part timers, so they can get away with paying less, & not paying benefits.
 
HiDnGoD said:
I see and understand your point. Minimum wage wasn't designed to be a living wage. However many people are trying to live on minimum wage.
Some employers, not just restaurants, are hiring only part timers, so they can get away with paying less, & not paying benefits.
Minimum wage was designed so corporations couldn't hire desperate people willing to work for 10 cents an hour back in the 1930's. Basically they wanted to do away with essentially slave labor, and at least make your lowest of workers able to feed themselves off their salary. However, unemployment goes up as the minimum wage goes up, more labor cost=less laborers. Layoffs all around.
 
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MR Pink said:
I don't tip...

Mr Blond So you don't care that they're counting on your tip to live?
Mr Pink Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses.
Mr White You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.
P So's working at McDonalds, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin' ya food, you should tip 'em. But no, society says tip these guys over here, but not those guys over there. That's bullshit.
Mr Pink has a good point here. Tipping is a big part of why anyone would work in the food service industry, and yet we are highly inconsistent in this matter.
Mr Blue They work harder than the kids at McDonalds.
P Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning fryers.
Another good point. Table staff work long hours for little pay, but there are others working in the smae industry who have much more unpleasant working conditions.
B These ladies are taxed on the tips they make. When you stiff'em, you cost them money.
W Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one job basically any woman get, and make a living on. The reason is becasue of tips.
Mr White makes a very strong case in favour of tipping. Mr Pink doesn't have ready answer, instead he sticks to his principles:
P Fuck all that.
A little later, Joe returns from paying the bill, and notices that the tip is a dollar short.
Joe You don't tip? Why?
Mr Orange He don't believe in it.
J (to Orange)He don't believe in it. (to Pink) You don't believe in it?
O Nope.
J (to O) Shut up! (to P) Cough up your buck, ya cheap bastard, I payed for your goddamn breakfast.


I smacked one of my roommates friends on the back of the head last week for giving the Pita Pit delivery guy a 7 cent tip and took 3 dollars from his pocket so I can give it to that guy next time he comes to deliver... I don't think he likes me anymore :)

Not to discredit your little story there, but I've worked as a waitress & for McDonalds & the difference between the pay is:

Waitress: $2.10 per hour
McDonaldss: $6.00+ per hour (at the time, above minimum wage)

So even claiming 1/2 the tips as a waitress, you are still claiming a lower hourly wage than working at McD's..........
 
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