Higher Physiological Total Test Count

[XMAN.]

What do u think the Higher Physiological Total Test Count should be?
plz post ur stats and ur hrt dose and ur current test count.

my stats : 31 yo 6 feet 200 lbs arround 10-13% BF
on 200mg test e/week , which puts me between 1100-1200 ng/dl
and in my opinion the 1200 ng/dl is the max high normal range.

 

[XMAN.]

come on guys no one has an opinion on this, just what do u think the highest and safest test level u want to have all year long.

 

[caribeman]

1200

 

[XMAN.]

for ppl who don't want to post their stats just vote on the poll

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Voted 1500+

Mine is about 900ng/dl 16 days after a 400mg test cyp shot..

So about 400mgs a week.. or more.. forever. For me anyways..

I also plan on adding other products to my permanent HRT.

 

[XMAN.]

Voted 1500+

Mine is about 900ng/dl 16 days after a 400mg test cyp shot..

So about 400mgs a week.. or more.. forever. For me anyways..

I also plan on adding other products to my permanent HRT.

do u think it's safe to cruise that high all year long for years, is there any study that shows it is possible let's say 2000 ng/dl all the time (of course with estro and prolac control) without any long term permanent sides like heart enlargement , cancer or diabetes?

 

[Zyglamail]

do u think it's safe to cruise that high all year long for years, is there any study that shows it is possible let's say 2000 ng/dl all the time (of course with estro and prolac control) without any long term permanent sides like heart enlargement , cancer or diabetes?

Unfortunately since the government criminalized AAS use many Docs simply avoid it and little real long term research has been done. There is however tons of empirical evidence that it appears to be as safe as any lifestyle choice.

You are far more likely to get diabetis or cancer from unhealthy diet in my opinion than from AAS use.

 

[XMAN.]

Unfortunately since the government criminalized AAS use many Docs simply avoid it and little real long term research has been done. There is however tons of empirical evidence that it appears to be as safe as any lifestyle choice.

You are far more likely to get diabetis or cancer from unhealthy diet in my opinion than from AAS use.

so what is ur number Zyg? what did u vote for?

 

[thelion2005]

Each of us has different goals, be they performance or appearance. We have it in our minds that is takes a high level of test to achieve great strength and/or a dynamic appearance.

However, it the combo of diet, exercise, recovery and additional aas that produces results.

I would opt for a lower test reading (be it at the top of the range) if strength and appearance goals were met. Sides are damaging.

 

[XMAN.]

Each of us has different goals, be they performance or appearance. We have it in our minds that is takes a high level of test to achieve great strength and/or a dynamic appearance.

However, it the combo of diet, exercise, recovery and additional aas that produces results.

I would opt for a lower test reading (be it at the top of the range) if strength and appearance goals were met. Sides are damaging.

exactly , but what is the top of the range? cuz different labs have different ranges , i know that in the past the top conventional range was 800ng/dl , but nowadays we see numbers like 1000 - 1200 or 1300ng/dl as a normal physiological level.

 

[Fatboy1984]

I voted 1200. my script is for 150 ew. It puts me around 800-850. my free test is some how always higher than normal though. So i dont know if i should up my dose any.

 

[XMAN.]

I voted 1200. my script is for 150 ew. It puts me around 800-850. my free test is some how always higher than normal though. So i dont know if i should up my dose any.

i think u can do 200mg/w with no worries.

 

[XMAN.]

bump for more votes

 

[XMAN.]

 

[XMAN.]

Bumpy-Bum

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[red crayon]

Im surprised that more people havent comented on this. I believe the normal range, according to the lab that does mt test, is 270 ng/DL to 1100 ng/DL. When I first had mine tested it was at 150 ng/DL. The last test That was done, 3 weeks ago, it measured 368 ng/DL. I am on HRT and it is closely monitored by a Dr. If I got to choose I would try and keep it as close to 1500 ng/DL as I could. I believe that this, based on what I have read, is still safe and would produce some killer results in the gym. I currently get a 2ml injection once every 2 weeks.
I hope more people see this and tell thier story as well. Oh and I have been on the HRT for ten or twelve years.

 

[XMAN.]

Im surprised that more people havent comented on this. I believe the normal range, according to the lab that does mt test, is 270 ng/DL to 1100 ng/DL. When I first had mine tested it was at 150 ng/DL. The last test That was done, 3 weeks ago, it measured 368 ng/DL. I am on HRT and it is closely monitored by a Dr. If I got to choose I would try and keep it as close to 1500 ng/DL as I could. I believe that this, based on what I have read, is still safe and would produce some killer results in the gym. I currently get a 2ml injection once every 2 weeks.
I hope more people see this and tell thier story as well. Oh and I have been on the HRT for ten or twelve years.

Thx for sharing ur story, and since u've been on hrt for that long i'm sure u already know about weekly injections or even twice a week, y rn't u doin that ?
2ml of test e or cyp means 400 or 500 mgs (test e usually comes in 250 mg amps and cyp in 200 mg amps) if u divide this to four shots and done twice per week i can guarantee u'd reach the 1000 ngs and stay on it all week long, very long intervals between ur shots and that's y ur tests always shows low cuz ur taking them far from the last shot b4 ur next schedualed shot as i suppose, i'm sure with 400 or 500 mgs ur reaching the 2000 ngs the first couple of days and drop slowly to what ur reading says ( 368 ng) after 2 weeks.
Ur living in a roller coaster buddy, change ur shots protocol asap at least to once per week.
Thx again for sharing ur experience with us, really appreciate any feedback from u guys
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[lorax]

My dose is 150 mg TestC/week (2x/week) and 500 IU HCG/week (2x/week)
I get bloodwork done right before I do a shot (so my levels are at their lowest) and I have been in the high 800's at that time. When I was running it at 200 mg/week my bloods came in at >1500. Surprised to see that big of a jump for that small of an increase but it is what it is I guess.

 

[XMAN.]

My dose is 150 mg TestC/week (2x/week) and 500 IU HCG/week (2x/week)
I get bloodwork done right before I do a shot (so my levels are at their lowest) and I have been in the high 800's at that time. When I was running it at 200 mg/week my bloods came in at >1500. Surprised to see that big of a jump for that small of an increase but it is what it is I guess.

And ur vote is for ........???
Thx for sharing ur experience bro

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[lorax]

oh sorry haha. I voted for 1000. Id prefer to go 1200 but then I have to start taking arimidex and worry about stuff like hair shedding. I like the blast & cruise method and these are not things I care to deal with when Im just cruising day to day.

 

[motorcyclegiant]

the levels "doctors" classify as "normal" are ridiculous. Just because they are worried about the press publicized about aas. Dont even get me started on my original doctor who said "high 300 is more than enough" I asked him for what? Just staying above the level of 90year old?

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[XMAN.]

oh sorry haha. I voted for 1000. Id prefer to go 1200 but then I have to start taking arimidex and worry about stuff like hair shedding. I like the blast & cruise method and these are not things I care to deal with when Im just cruising day to day.

Fair enough

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[XMAN.]

the levels "doctors" classify as "normal" are ridiculous. Just because they are worried about the press publicized about aas. Dont even get me started on my original doctor who said "high 300 is more than enough" I asked him for what? Just staying above the level of 90year old?

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Ur right most docs sound ridiculous when talking hrt, it's still a taboo for most of them cuz they think they're advertizing AAS and they'll get flagged, dunno if it's just a naive response to what they think is ethical or just cowardness, but the latter seems much more appropriate

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[motorcyclegiant]

I feel kinda shady, but when I have to get blood draws, I usually go for lower dosages prior, because Im terrified of the dreaded.."I think we should go lower in the dosage, get your T down to safe levels of 400. Sucks, but its the little game their paranoia makes me play.

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