woa, buddy...before you go calling it complete bs, and complete bs period nonetheless, you can respectfully disagree, lol. I think a football player micromanaging their diet is totally not necessary. How can you account for the number of people who notice no difference between bulking ultra clean or not so clean with a little common sense? As long as protein is in place and they hit their target for excess. Are you saying two people who weigh 240 both eat the same amount of protein from the same sources, and 1 guys is 2500 calories over maintainence from eating 2 jars of ANPB and the other guy eats a Big Mac to go over maintainence, then the guy eating big macs will be fatter? I have never seen it with people and I have never experienced it myself.