Got X-rayed today....

[jc1908]

I've got arthritus (sp) in both shoulders and small bone spurs. Nothing to be done, if it gets worse it's a 15 min surgery with 3 weeks recovery. Better than rotator cuff injury. just deal with the pain, maybe some deca..Doc said very common in weight lifters..FYI
JC

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I've got arthritus (sp) in both shoulders and small bone spurs. Nothing to be done, if it gets worse it's a 15 min surgery with 3 weeks recovery. Better than rotator cuff injury. just deal with the pain, maybe some deca..Doc said very common in weight lifters..FYI
JC

Interesting... Good luck bro. That doesn't seem to be too bad of a surgery if it does come to that. How long have you been an avid lifter? And age if you don't mind for reference purposes?

- SGT

 

[Zyglamail]

I've got arthritus (sp) in both shoulders and small bone spurs. Nothing to be done, if it gets worse it's a 15 min surgery with 3 weeks recovery. Better than rotator cuff injury. just deal with the pain, maybe some deca..Doc said very common in weight lifters..FYI
JC

The reason its so common is due to minor tendon/ligiment injuries and improper treatment. Supressing the pain and working through these minor injuries with anti-inflamatories means the slack is never healed and joint laxity ensues which over time wears away cartiledge and causes arthritis. The spurs are actually deposits and the body trying to somehow take up the slack in the joint.

Fix the laxity in the joint with prolotherapy and pain will greatly subside if not go away and many prolo docs are even treating such injuries with GH and have had luck with cartiledge actually being replaced.

 

[scout69]

Damn bro, well good luck with that

 

[jc1908]

The reason its so common is due to minor tendon/ligiment injuries and improper treatment. Supressing the pain and working through these minor injuries with anti-inflamatories means the slack is never healed and joint laxity ensues which over time wears away cartiledge and causes arthritis. The spurs are actually deposits and the body trying to somehow take up the slack in the joint.

Fix the laxity in the joint with prolotherapy and pain will greatly subside if not go away and many prolo docs are even treating such injuries with GH and have had luck with cartiledge actually being replaced.

ZYG, what is prolotherapy? never heard it before.
Thanks..jc

 

[jc1908]

Interesting... Good luck bro. That doesn't seem to be too bad of a surgery if it does come to that. How long have you been an avid lifter? And age if you don't mind for reference purposes?

- SGT

39 yrs young..you young bucks might be ok...was diagnosed 6yrs ago with torn rotator cuff,doc said have surgery or lay off lifting for awhile. well long and short,no ins at the time could not afford a second opinin, so eventually stopped lifting for about 5-6 yrs..been back for 2.
i had the xray for my job, kinda unrelated, and it led to this..
the reason i posted is because for all these years i thought i had rotator cuff problems..thought i may help someone...
thanks for the posts...jc
sorry, to answer your q., lifted in HS for football, then in college (played on the scout squad,but it was a major SEC D1 school..LOL my claim to greatness) then off for a few years of chasing ass and drinking,then back on till it snapped..

 

[Zyglamail]

ZYG, what is prolotherapy? never heard it before.
Thanks..jc

Prolotherapy is a means of strengthening and thickening tendons/ligiments by encouraging the body to heal itself.

While inflamation is generally thought of as a bad thing, and in many cases can be, when it comes to tendons/ligiments inflamation is the only thing that causes the cascade of healing events that is needed to repair damaged tendons/ligiments. Injuries to these tissues are very common in athletes and the 1st thing everyone does when theur joint aches is to grab a bottle of anti-inflamatories and put ice on the sore area. Both of which significantly hamper or all together stop the healing process.

Tendon/ligiment tissue has a normal cellular turnover rate of 300 to 500 days. This means that if these tissues get injured and are not allowed to be repaired you will be submitting the remaining weakened tissue to additional stresses, which invariably bring about additional injuries and in turn the bottle of anti-inflamatories/ice and so on and so on. As the connective tissues get weakened over time the joint become lax (ie sloppy) and when the joint isnt nice and tight you impose uneven pressure on the cartiledge. Over time this will wear it away causing further laxity and ultimatly arthritis.

What most athletes dont realize is that for the average couch potatoe ice and anti-inflamatories isnt a big deal. They likely wont be taxing the injured joint again any time soon. However for those who are active and are submitting their joints to stresses on a daily basis its very important for your long term joint health that you either allow the tissue to repaire (if your patient) or force it to repaire (if your impatient, like most of us are).

Prolotherapy isnt widely used because its cheap and easy. The only ones to really benefit from it are the doctors who do it and the patients. There is no magic pill, no need for countless, expensive tests, no surgery etc.

The prolo doc will simply use a syringe filled with a local anesthetic and an inflamation causing agent (like dextrose) and inject it directly into the tendons/ligiments of the injured joint. This causes a very fast and pronounced yet localized inflamatory reaction and kick starts the body into healing the injury. For tissues not injured it will trigger a strengthening and thickening which helps to reinforce and stabalize the injured joint. It usually takes less than 10 minutes or so and your on your way, returning every few weeks for additional treatments until your joint feels stable.

You can read more at prolonews.com,

 

[chefbone]

Prolotherapy is a means of strengthening and thickening tendons/ligiments by encouraging the body to heal itself.

While inflamation is generally thought of as a bad thing, and in many cases can be, when it comes to tendons/ligiments inflamation is the only thing that causes the cascade of healing events that is needed to repair damaged tendons/ligiments. Injuries to these tissues are very common in athletes and the 1st thing everyone does when theur joint aches is to grab a bottle of anti-inflamatories and put ice on the sore area. Both of which significantly hamper or all together stop the healing process.

Tendon/ligiment tissue has a normal cellular turnover rate of 300 to 500 days. This means that if these tissues get injured and are not allowed to be repaired you will be submitting the remaining weakened tissue to additional stresses, which invariably bring about additional injuries and in turn the bottle of anti-inflamatories/ice and so on and so on. As the connective tissues get weakened over time the joint become lax (ie sloppy) and when the joint isnt nice and tight you impose uneven pressure on the cartiledge. Over time this will wear it away causing further laxity and ultimatly arthritis.

What most athletes dont realize is that for the average couch potatoe ice and anti-inflamatories isnt a big deal. They likely wont be taxing the injured joint again any time soon. However for those who are active and are submitting their joints to stresses on a daily basis its very important for your long term joint health that you either allow the tissue to repaire (if your patient) or force it to repaire (if your impatient, like most of us are).

Prolotherapy isnt widely used because its cheap and easy. The only ones to really benefit from it are the doctors who do it and the patients. There is no magic pill, no need for countless, expensive tests, no surgery etc.

The prolo doc will simply use a syringe filled with a local anesthetic and an inflamation causing agent (like dextrose) and inject it directly into the tendons/ligiments of the injured joint. This causes a very fast and pronounced yet localized inflamatory reaction and kick starts the body into healing the injury. For tissues not injured it will trigger a strengthening and thickening which helps to reinforce and stabalize the injured joint. It usually takes less than 10 minutes or so and your on your way, returning every few weeks for additional treatments until your joint feels stable.

You can read more at prolonews.com,

K to U bro!!!

 

[jc1908]

Prolotherapy is a means of strengthening and thickening tendons/ligiments by encouraging the body to heal itself.

While inflamation is generally thought of as a bad thing, and in many cases can be, when it comes to tendons/ligiments inflamation is the only thing that causes the cascade of healing events that is needed to repair damaged tendons/ligiments. Injuries to these tissues are very common in athletes and the 1st thing everyone does when theur joint aches is to grab a bottle of anti-inflamatories and put ice on the sore area. Both of which significantly hamper or all together stop the healing process.

Tendon/ligiment tissue has a normal cellular turnover rate of 300 to 500 days. This means that if these tissues get injured and are not allowed to be repaired you will be submitting the remaining weakened tissue to additional stresses, which invariably bring about additional injuries and in turn the bottle of anti-inflamatories/ice and so on and so on. As the connective tissues get weakened over time the joint become lax (ie sloppy) and when the joint isnt nice and tight you impose uneven pressure on the cartiledge. Over time this will wear it away causing further laxity and ultimatly arthritis.

What most athletes dont realize is that for the average couch potatoe ice and anti-inflamatories isnt a big deal. They likely wont be taxing the injured joint again any time soon. However for those who are active and are submitting their joints to stresses on a daily basis its very important for your long term joint health that you either allow the tissue to repaire (if your patient) or force it to repaire (if your impatient, like most of us are).

Prolotherapy isnt widely used because its cheap and easy. The only ones to really benefit from it are the doctors who do it and the patients. There is no magic pill, no need for countless, expensive tests, no surgery etc.

The prolo doc will simply use a syringe filled with a local anesthetic and an inflamation causing agent (like dextrose) and inject it directly into the tendons/ligiments of the injured joint. This causes a very fast and pronounced yet localized inflamatory reaction and kick starts the body into healing the injury. For tissues not injured it will trigger a strengthening and thickening which helps to reinforce and stabalize the injured joint. It usually takes less than 10 minutes or so and your on your way, returning every few weeks for additional treatments until your joint feels stable.

You can read more at prolonews.com,

K, thanks jc

 

[slat1]

Good luck with the shoulders. I know what it is like to workout when you are not 100%. It sucks!