Garry Frank's 2800 total

[LiftingDukkha]

I just found out that Garry Frank is credited with totalling 2800+ lbs. First, Good God! 2nd, does anyone know exactly what his 3 lifts were for that day? That has to be, like, 1000-1100 lb Squat, 750-800 Bench, and 950 Deadlift. Jesus H. Christ.

 

[donsj]

fuck me man, I don't know, that is insane

 

[BadboyAl]

Check out Critical Bench inteview:

http://www.criticalbench.com/powerlifter-gary-frank.htm

 

[LiftingDukkha]

From that article:

"'What are your current goals? Do you think you have enough left in the tank to reach 3000?'

Frank: 'Get to 3000 lbs. hmm. I don't know. I am hoping that I have enough left in the tank to reach 2900lbs. The weight starts to get heavy at a certain point.'"

Gee, you think? LOL!

 

[kethnaab]

*mutters something about stupid denim lifting suits*

dude is a beast, but you can't compare any of these guys to the guys of "yesteryear", because it is damn near impossible to tell if they've gotten stronger (possibly), or if the lifting gear has gotten better (definitely)

 

[LiftingDukkha]

Well, I think it's pretty well-accepted that no suits actually help out Deadlift, which is why guys like Ed Coan say the Deadlift is the truest test of real strength (convenient for him, since he's the greatest pound-for-pound DL'er of all time).

Garry Frank held the world record in DL not too long ago, around 935. Now, the problem with Powerlifting Totals is that it seems that everybody -- everybody -- is good on either 1 or 2 lifts, but never on all 3 at the same time. Ed Coan was mind-boggling at Squat & Deadlift, but his Bench was his relative "weakness" (which is why he "only" totalled ~2460 at a 220 bodyweight!!!!! ~970 Squat, 580 BP, 901 Deadlift).

Among the Superheavies, it seems like most of the record behemoths are either great at "just" Squat, or Bench, or both Squat and Bench, but never Deadlift; or, conversely, it seems like some guys would be phenomenal at Deadlift, but not as relatively good at Bench, or even Squat.

For example, before Garry Frank, most world-class Superheavyweights would total something like: 950 Squat, 650 BP, 700 Deadlift = 2300 total.

(Which makes Ed Coan, at 220-242, about 100+ lbs. lighter than the Superheavies, all the more amazing.)

Bill Kazmaier held the world record for decades, at about 2470, with about 950 Squat, 650 Bench, and 870 Deadlift -- and this was waaaayyy before all the incredible supportive equipment came out!

Anyway, Garry Frank is really the first truly well-rounded Superheavyweight to come around since Kaz -- and his Deadlift is significantly stronger than Kaz's, so I have to give Garry credit for that.

I think head-to-head, same supportive equipment, or not, Garry Frank would out-total Kaz, probably by a pretty healthy margin. For one thing, Garry's Deadlift would be at least 50 lbs. stronger than Kaz's. For another thing, I think Garry probably could out-bench Kaz by at least 50 lbs, supportive gear or not.

That's just my opinion.

Anyway, can anyone tell me what exactly Garry Frank's 3 lifts were, exactly, when he busted 2800?

 

[Chambewy20]

*mutters something about stupid denim lifting suits*

dude is a beast, but you can't compare any of these guys to the guys of "yesteryear", because it is damn near impossible to tell if they've gotten stronger (possibly), or if the lifting gear has gotten better (definitely)

Well why not, just because the technology is more advanced and the equipment is more readily available. Fred Hatfield was labelled as the first man to squat a thousand, he was also the first man to stand up with the weight on his back and have them move the jackstands out from under him rather than walking the weight out. And have you ever seen this film, his wraps go from the middle of his thigh to the middle of his calves and he trained for two years for this one lift. What about the yesteryear guys before him?

Also, he squats with his legs shoulders width apart, 99.9% of all big squatters squat sumo except for Steve Goggins, why, the lift got more advanced and people got smarter and targetted the muscle groups that gave you the most with the lift.

Dude, if you don't like equipment and want to compete, compete raw, if you don't like drugs, compete in tested events, if you like double ply, single ply, canvas, denim, poly, whatever, compete in federations or competitions specific to you and quit complaining on how guys back in the day are stronger then guys now or if there is anyway to tell.

Oh by the way, a little secret, there is virtually no such thing as an "all natural" event, 90% of the time, they only test the few top guys with the best coefficients, and they mostly piss test so not a whole lot to tell from that.

Look at friggin football players these days, they are bigger, stronger, faster and everything else. You can argue their training methods are more advanced, the drugs are more advanced, whatever, not like Lyle (?) Alzado or Matuzak (?) were natural, both died of brain cancer.

 

[LiftingDukkha]

Yes, I basically agree. "Natural" is NOT a clear-cut target. What's natural? If they tested caffeine, and some do, I wouldn't do that meet. etc.

Anyway:

Can anyone tell me what exactly Garry Frank's 3 lifts were, exactly, when he busted 2800?

 

[Chambewy20]

Yeah sorta missed, that http://www.worldpowerlifting.org/Results103005.pdf

This is from Chicago, don't know if he's hit 2800 yet.

 

[LiftingDukkha]

From that link:

WPO semifinals, Oct. 30 2005

Garry Frank - BWT 164.3 kg = 361 lbs

Squat - 480 kg = 1058 lbs

BP - 365 kg = 805 lbs

DL - 395 kg = 870 lbs

Total - 1240 = 2733 lbs.




Good lord. That's not even his best meet!