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You'd just owe me your car.
I guess people will only hear what they want to hear.
Look, I've done more X than everyone on this board combined. Twelve years, nearly every weekend, with a couple years off. I'm not proud of the fact that I was a hardcore drug addict (crack mainly) some years back. But I was aware of the possibility of organ damage back then and did have some (few) tests, along with regular doc visits.
Here it is, for the last time and for those of you who care to listen.
Winstrol + MDMA = trouble.
They BOTH dehydrate you dramatically. They BOTH elevate your blood pressure and your body temp. They BOTH exert significant stress on the liver, and one most probably occupies the conversion enzyme required for the other.
I did X for over two years straight---HEAVY DOSES, bro---without any negative readings in my regular checkups.
Add winny and clen and in a few months, I keeled over. Came up overnight. I woke up yellower than a ripe banana. I had patied the night before, came home, did a delt winny shot, and crashed.
Slept for thirty hours, had terrible nightmares, and when the girl I was with woke me up in a panick I could barely move. She told me I needed to get to the hospital NOW. I looked at myself and I resembled a bruise. Now, get this...I actually waited a few hours to see if I could flush things out with water.
I sent her home, then my bowel got blocked and I became delerious. Long story short, I had to give myself an enema in the bathtub right then and there while my bud talked to the paramedics on the way over.
My enzymes were in the thousands, people. Are you listening to me? Doc said my liver was just a couple hours away from failing entirely. Kidneys the same way. He said I coulv'e eaten a handful of bananas and died.
Now, here's an interesting side note. Starting that night I increased my GHB doses and water intake. I added the primary ingredients found in Tylers Detox and my jaundice went away in about three weeks. Another three weeks and my liver was fine, at least in terms of enzyme readings.
I lost about thirty pounds during the ordeal.
I am perfectly aware that hepatitis is a term meaning inflamed liver.
What the fuck is wrong with you people that makes you want to qualify what I am telling you from experience? You think I make this shit up?
Hey, you want to do X and winny together, fine by me. Don't say you weren't warned.
My advice, roll when you are OFF CYCLE. Or, when you are on a non stressful cycle.
A lot of other factors are escaping your attention, folks. Keep in mind that nearly all of the bodybuilding heart attack deaths didn't just involve heavy roid use, but also heavy AMPHETAMINE use. Look them up and see for your wretched selves. The combo of amphetamines and roids is very very risky, period.
And what aobut all these fatburners you people take? You think that you can just mix MDMA and clen? Or MDMA and even Xenadrines? People have DIED that way. Last year a bodybuilder took ONE YELLOW GATOR and DIED. Two years before that two bodybuilders that rolled regularly in the LA area went to an after hours party and one lived to tell how the other died. Guess what? X and clen, he was on cycle.
MDMA is a great drug if you ask me. But it is stressful to the body people.
Winstrol is stressful to the body in LOTS OF WAYS.
You should read back over your posts and listen to yourselves try to justify either total banning or total indulgence.
Its fucking pathetic and makes me wonder how many of you are really serious at all about your health. I learned this the hard way. The VERY hard way.