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Senate Approves $4.6 Billion for Claims by Black Farmers, American Indians - Bloomberg

The U.S. Senate yesterday approved spending $4.6 billion to settle two lawsuits: one by black farmers who alleged racial discrimination by government lenders and the other by 300,000 American Indians who said they had been cheated out of land royalties dating to 1887.

Passage of the measure, by voice vote, unblocks a legislative logjam that has thwarted payouts, negotiated by the Obama administration, of $1.15 billion to the black farmers and $3.4 billion to the American Indians.

“We are one step closer to ensuring that the black farmers and Native Americans in these suits are fully compensated for past failures of judgment by the government,” U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said in a statement after the Senate vote. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, said he hopes to seek a vote after Congress returns from a week-long recess on Nov. 29.

President Barack Obama praised the Senate action and urged the House to move forward with the bill “as they did last year.”

The House included the funding in war supplemental legislation it passed this summer, but it must vote on the settlements again. The Senate version of the war supplemental did not contain the funding to settle the lawsuits because Republicans objected to the proposed financing method, saying it added to the deficit.

At least seven times this year, Senate Republicans blocked efforts to include the spending provisions in pending legislation. Their objections prompted repeated complaints by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, who said in an Aug. 5 statement that Republicans’ “petty political calculations” were “denying justice to these Americans.”

Yesterday, Reid said in a statement that justice “will finally be served.”

Discrimination Alleged

The farmers’ 1997 class-action lawsuit alleged discrimination by the Agriculture Department’s lending programs. Under a negotiated settlement announced in February, qualified farmers can collect as much as $50,000, plus debt relief. Others may collect monetary damages up to $250,000.

The Obama administration requested $1.15 billion in its 2010 budget, on top of $100 million that Congress approved in the 2008 farm bill to finance the settlement.

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said in a statement yesterday that the Senate’s “bold step” to finance the black farmers’ settlement “marks a major milestone in USDA’s efforts to turn the page on a sad chapter in our history.”

One of the largest class-action cases filed against the U.S., the 1996 lawsuit by American Indian plaintiffs accused the Interior Department of mismanaging trust funds that collected royalties for grazing rights and the extraction of minerals, oil and natural gas from tribal lands. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the settlement of that case last December.

“This is a day that will be etched in our memories and our history books,” Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement yesterday. The settlement “honorably and responsibly addresses long-standing injustices,” he said.
 
questions and concerns i have about this
-how come this wasn't brought up before the midterms?
-so only blacks and indians get paid...what about
the poor white farmers (okies) and asian farmers?
quit a history of both getting fuct over.
where is their loot?
-kinda weak bringing this up in a lame duck congress...why
not let the new boys in town vote on this??
-what percentage of this payment will actually get given to those
discriminated against, and how much will people scam?
-will this clear the white racists slate, or will their be more and more demands?
discuss
 
My God....no wonder this country sucks....and we are broke. A bunch of stupid fucker giving more money to people who dont deserve it. I wish there were hand outs to white folks.
 
My God....no wonder this country sucks....and we are broke. A bunch of stupid fucker giving more money to people who dont deserve it. I wish there were hand outs to white folks.

let's not get too harsh on the legit victims, which i believe
exist.
it's just the number of the payout, the non-cacusoid payments, the inevitable sketchy scams that will develop, and further
debting our future...
and imo it paves the way for more outlandish payouts
 
I sure am glad the Congress isn't getting distracted by little details like our failing economy and skyrocketing deficit.
 
Don't worry, much of the money won't even be claimed and it will just sit somewhere in oblivion hopefully building a bit of cash in some bond. Similar thing was done for Japanese Americans and those with any pride didn't even claim the money- it was the gesture by the government that eased the indignation of the internment and the loss of much of their land and possessions to scavengers while they were locked up. It was vindication more than anything.

Just let them do it and be done with it like electing Obama to have a black president. Let the chips fall where they may, we clean up the mess and now no one can say anything about anything and people will have to own up to their lack of education, good judgement, and determination. Give it "away" and then they/we can all just shut up and get to work and quit listening to people whining about the past and blaming it for their present.

We got a black president (check!), we gave money to Japanese and American people we locked up (check!), blacks and Native Americans (check!). Anyone else? No? Okay, we can finally balance what's left and get our lazy ass American yung ungs to wake up and smell the roses that there are NO MORE EXCUSES!!! EVERYTHING is getting outsourced (4 Hour Work Week writer tells just how much web stuff will go out too) while cheap "immigrants" are imported and the only thing our Heinz 57 citizens will be good for is selling drugs on the street or using their creativity. That is our best gift but it means nothing if there is no science and math and diligence to give it substance. I say "Heinz 57" because many 1st generation American-born kids of still hungry immigrant parents are getting their butts whipped into gear making damn sure they don't get too hooked on fun and frolicking 24/7 and socializing like it's the only important thing in their lives. Yeah, I'm back. Just for a bit. 2 jobs, school, kids (and it's not my special needs one that needs extra attention) and being a personal assistant to my spouse who is suffering from depression keeps me away from THIS sometimes fun sometimes destructive socializing network. smirk. ; / Betchya didn't miss me.... huh Dave?
 
Don't worry, much of the money won't even be claimed and it will just sit somewhere in oblivion hopefully building a bit of cash in some bond. Similar thing was done for Japanese Americans and those with any pride didn't even claim the money- it was the gesture by the government that eased the indignation of the internment and the loss of much of their land and possessions to scavengers while they were locked up. It was vindication more than anything.

Just let them do it and be done with it like electing Obama to have a black president. Let the chips fall where they may, we clean up the mess and now no one can say anything about anything and people will have to own up to their lack of education, good judgement, and determination. Give it "away" and then they/we can all just shut up and get to work and quit listening to people whining about the past and blaming it for their present.

We got a black president (check!), we gave money to Japanese and American people we locked up (check!), blacks and Native Americans (check!). Anyone else? No? Okay, we can finally balance what's left and get our lazy ass American yung ungs to wake up and smell the roses that there are NO MORE EXCUSES!!! EVERYTHING is getting outsourced (4 Hour Work Week writer tells just how much web stuff will go out too) while cheap "immigrants" are imported and the only thing our Heinz 57 citizens will be good for is selling drugs on the street or using their creativity. That is our best gift but it means nothing if there is no science and math and diligence to give it substance. I say "Heinz 57" because many 1st generation American-born kids of still hungry immigrant parents are getting their butts whipped into gear making damn sure they don't get too hooked on fun and frolicking 24/7 and socializing like it's the only important thing in their lives. Yeah, I'm back. Just for a bit. 2 jobs, school, kids (and it's not my special needs one that needs extra attention) and being a personal assistant to my spouse who is suffering from depression keeps me away from THIS sometimes fun sometimes destructive socializing network. smirk. ; / Betchya didn't miss me.... huh Dave?

Methinks you arent familiar with the modern blique and injun population.
 
Indians already have a lock on Casinos in all states. You have to be of indian decent to own a casino. The Cherokee indians in Cherokee NC went from living in poverty to having Harrahs come in and build several casinos on there reservation paid for by tax dollars. Every Indian gets a monthly check . It turned the entire Cherokee Indian tribe into instant millionaires in the late 80,s... I mean if you are a newborn, you get a check.. Unreal.
 
Don't worry, much of the money won't even be claimed and it will just sit somewhere in oblivion hopefully building a bit of cash in some bond. Similar thing was done for Japanese Americans and those with any pride didn't even claim the money- it was the gesture by the government that eased the indignation of the internment and the loss of much of their land and possessions to scavengers while they were locked up. It was vindication more than anything.

Just let them do it and be done with it like electing Obama to have a black president. Let the chips fall where they may, we clean up the mess and now no one can say anything about anything and people will have to own up to their lack of education, good judgement, and determination. Give it "away" and then they/we can all just shut up and get to work and quit listening to people whining about the past and blaming it for their present.

We got a black president (check!), we gave money to Japanese and American people we locked up (check!), blacks and Native Americans (check!). Anyone else? No? Okay, we can finally balance what's left and get our lazy ass American yung ungs to wake up and smell the roses that there are NO MORE EXCUSES!!! EVERYTHING is getting outsourced (4 Hour Work Week writer tells just how much web stuff will go out too) while cheap "immigrants" are imported and the only thing our Heinz 57 citizens will be good for is selling drugs on the street or using their creativity. That is our best gift but it means nothing if there is no science and math and diligence to give it substance. I say "Heinz 57" because many 1st generation American-born kids of still hungry immigrant parents are getting their butts whipped into gear making damn sure they don't get too hooked on fun and frolicking 24/7 and socializing like it's the only important thing in their lives. Yeah, I'm back. Just for a bit. 2 jobs, school, kids (and it's not my special needs one that needs extra attention) and being a personal assistant to my spouse who is suffering from depression keeps me away from THIS sometimes fun sometimes destructive socializing network. smirk. ; / Betchya didn't miss me.... huh Dave?

Completely different culture, more entitled.
And yea, if this payout would settle all the scores, so their could be no more bitching/crying/demanding, i'd agree to it.
but it won't be the last...to certain minds, the payout is and admittance of guilt and opens the floodgates for more lawsuits against the racist white folks
 
Completely different culture, more entitled.
And yea, if this payout would settle all the scores, so their could be no more bitching/crying/demanding, i'd agree to it.
but it won't be the last...to certain minds, the payout is and admittance of guilt and opens the floodgates for more lawsuits against the racist white folks

^ this.

Expect more to come. Taxpayers would be paying reparations for the next 1,000 years.
 
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