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BigBadBootyDaddy29
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The Shadow said:
He was about 266 or so, with basically no bodyfat. The next year he got stronger and won in a more dominating fashion NOT at the same weight, NOT at a lighter weight, but at 20lbs HEAVIER. So, yes, you did contradictr yourself since the strength gain was accompanied by a gain in 20lbs of LBM, if anything you supported what I was trying to get across.
What I was saying is that LBM is very important in terms of raw, pure strength, and even at 266 ripped, Pudz is still bigger than a guy who weighs 310 and is carrying 80lbs of fat and water and other useless, shit weight, because when you look at lean body mass, Pudz was 266, and the guy I made up for argument's sake is about 230 if you look at lean bodyweight. If WSm competitors had their weight listed as LBM, Pudz would be one of the heaviest guys out there, he just doesn't carry excess crap that is useless anyway.
I still stand by what I said and that is to increase pure, raw, real, functional strength, muscle, thus weight gain is necessary. Powerlifting is an aweful example because equipment and changes/modifications in technique can be the cause for jumps in numbers, or as b-fold said "so called strength".
Like Debaser said, you compared Mariusz to the other guys, who he is stronger than anyway, then Mariusz went out and gained 20 lbs and was stronger, more dominant, and just as lean. so you did nothing but contradict what you initially said, and support my argument.
Maybe you'll put the argument aside for a minute and just see what I mean.....a 148lb powerlifter can increase his bench by 50lbs and stay 148 by using a different shirt, modyifing his shirt, arching his back, driving his legs, etc.....but he still benches the same thing raw with a constant form as he ever did, to illustrate my point that you need to add muscle weight to increase strength I'll say that you can only get stronger at the same weight to a point. You'll see some lighter guys stronger than some heavier guys due to genetics, tendon strength, joint structure, etc....but if you take say two identical twins, both are say 5'10", both have been following the same workout for the same time, and both are 10% bodyfat, however one weighs 170lbs and the other is 235lbs.....there is no way the lighter guy will ever be as strong as the heavier guy given that both maintain the same weight and bodyfat numbers, it just isn't gonna happen on this planet. NOW if they both have a LBM of 170lbs and one is 10% bodyfat and the other is 30%bf, the guy that is fat may weigh 250, but his functional, muscular weight is only about 153, the same as the 170lb guy......
As far as most people go, if you weigh 150 and you bench press 275 and you want to raise that to 405 without changing your technique or adding equipment, you're gonna have to get bigger, and thats all there is to it.
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