I feel you on the not getting something big, but flowers wouldn't be that big. I've got her stuff before, as a gift from a friend, and she knows that I have enough money to go around. If I don't get her anything at all until Christmas, then I'd look really cheap and she knows I'm not cheap. When I think of something big that I could get for Christmas, I'm thinking diamonds (not a ring though). It wouldn't be unusual for me to stop by and have like a little $20 something for her just to know that I was thinking about her. I figure since we're going out now that I should pony up a little more dough on the things i get her. Our date the other night was around $150, which was the highest first date that I've ever had, but I think she's worth every bit of it. I was thinking that if we get intimate anytime soon (normally I shoot for the third date, but I'm going to let her lead the way) that I might ask her to go up to this place my family has in the mountains for a little weekend getaway. Is that pushing it? By the way, badazzwhitedude, most of the time when I get crushed by a girl, I probably deserved it, I've never cheated on one, but I'm sure I would have had to of done something wrong. Girls are smart. This girl isn't like anybody else I've ever been with. She's really caring, and makes me feel good about myself (okay, I'll admit, as hot as she is, when walked in the restaurant the other night, and every guy in there was looking, wishing he was me, that was probably the best feeling ever). Since we've known each other for a good while before we ever went out, can't some of the dating rules (like the big gift thing) go out the window?