DBOL DURING pct....

[njmuscleguy]

this method is definitely going to gain more popularity.... especially by people whose PCT's in the past have been less than stellar.... Here is what the "theory" behind this method is from those that are pro-AM Dbol method - I'm not saying I agree or disagree, never done it myself, but am ready to try it at any given time if/when my next PCT fails: (taken from steroid.com)

"In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT."

 

[JKurz1]

This is one of most ridiculous theories I've ever heard regarding AAS.

Your body can't recover if you are still using AAS.

......and why on earth would you choose D-bol to run alone during PCT?

That's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Jabs]

10 m/g of dbol would surpress your natural production, you would just be bridging your cycles together. Nothing wrong with it but you are stilling staying on.

 

[ricorico]

LOL your body produces the most test in the morning and the number lowers throughout the day bro. Doing dbol in pct defeats the purpose of pct.

right, your natural testosterone is highest upon waking up, taking the dbol in the am when waking up , will just "ride" (for the lack of a better word) the wave of your natty test. then levels drop as usual and the body will still produce it...ive never actualluy done the bridge, but have always considered it. ill only do it if i have a REALLY REALLY BAD crash.

 

[Neo22]

this method is definitely going to gain more popularity.... especially by people whose PCT's in the past have been less than stellar.... Here is what the "theory" behind this method is from those that are pro-AM Dbol method - I'm not saying I agree or disagree, never done it myself, but am ready to try it at any given time if/when my next PCT fails: (taken from steroid.com)

"In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT."

100mg a day of dbol DID not supress test lh or fsh LMFAO. What a complete load of shit!!!! Oh and some saying that 10mg a day wont supress your recovery, I guess you're right bc everyone is the same and everyone requires the same dosage and everyone has the same reaction and sensitivity to AAS>

 

[ricorico]

100mg a day of dbol DID not supress test lh or fsh LMFAO. What a complete load of shit!!!! Oh and some saying that 10mg a day wont supress your recovery, I guess you're right bc everyone is the same and everyone requires the same dosage and everyone has the same reaction and sensitivity to AAS>

werd, what might work for some, may not for others....wish i knew ahead of time if it would work for me, be nice to be able to maintain all size while recovering, but i guess thats what igf and gh are for (tho waayyy more expensive)

 

[njmuscleguy]

100mg a day of dbol DID not supress test lh or fsh LMFAO. What a complete load of shit!!!! Oh and some saying that 10mg a day wont supress your recovery, I guess you're right bc everyone is the same and everyone requires the same dosage and everyone has the same reaction and sensitivity to AAS>

RELAX dude.... *I'm* not saying it, I'm just quoting what the popular theory is behind that morning Dbol method... I'm not sure what studies they did to determine that 100mg a day of DBol wasn't suppressive.... I don't have any personal experience (yet) to prove or disprove that a mere 10mg Dbol ED will or won't suppress....do YOU have personal experience with that? bloodwork? Because if you don't, then you can't say that the theory is wrong.....


and just because a general dosage is given as a recommendation, doesn't mean it's bible for EVERYONE...so I don't know what you're getting at with that point.... people throw out general recommendations for AAS, AI's, PCT meds, etc etc etc.... the disclaimer is always there, that everyone is different, use at your discretion.....

As with any other AAS or PCT protocol, people have the perogative to try it and see for themselves.... only then would *I* give out advice based on MY personal experience. If I see other people's results/bloodwork as well as my own (after trying this method), then you can be sure I would let people know if it worked or not.

 

[MR. BMJ]

It's mainly used to prevent crashing after AAS usage and PCT. It's not necessarily used for restoration of your natural test. Everybody is gonna react different here so you can't say just because it looks ridiculous that it isn't gonna work for some.

The question we had in the past for those that did find their natty test return, is that how much restoration DID occur. Meaning, if natty test, etc was restored during and after PCT, along with the am dbol dosage, did it only restore 25%, 75%, 0r was there 100% restoration?

And no, i'm not saying that the dbol is gonna raise test levels, it will only raise androgen levels.

BMJ

 

[Ulter]

Jkurtz, I just posted this on the other thread.
Using AM Dbol is a very widely used course for PCT and Post PCT if the PCT is failing. Most people don't need it. It's been around since the 80's and was written about by Bill Roberts 5 years ago. It's pretty simple. You take 10mg of dbol upon rising when your natural test levels would normally peak. This keeps you from crashing and your body reads the E as normal test production. When the dbol wears off later in the day your HPTA reads the low E and signals the testes to make test again. It works. It's been used on this board by many of the members. It's one of those things that doesn't get discussed much until someone is crashing and I bring it up.

 

[JKurz1]

K.....SO WITH nolv,aimf,clomid and armidex....how would my pct look? much K