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[erickthegreat11]

GREEK FREAK: I've tried db presses before and they burned out my tris. I guess this means I stress my tris when benching. On the other hand, I couldn't get the form down for it. I'd do the presses ok, but getting those weights back down almost cost me injury b/c they were just too heavy for me to lift.

BARBELL 265: Are you saying change bench exercises incline for so many weeks, then flat for so many weeks, then decline for so many weeks? Prob answered my own question. Never done decline before, and I never heard of doing it for powerlifting, but I'm not against trying it either.

Interesting point on weighted dips also. Now, my routine for bench day is: Narrow bench, overhead barbell press, db flyes, and db overhead triceps ext. I had been doing dips about 4-5 months ago, but dropped them b/c I thought it was overkill having 3 pressing movements like that. Do you think I should include them as a change up for overhead barbell press, or work it in afterwards? or something different?

Man alive, just goes to show you never stop learning.

 

[Victorian guy]

Interesting point on weighted dips also. Now, my routine for bench day is: Narrow bench, overhead barbell press, db flyes, and db overhead triceps ext. I had been doing dips about 4-5 months ago, but dropped them b/c I thought it was overkill having 3 pressing movements like that. Do you think I should include them as a change up for overhead barbell press, or work it in afterwards? or something different?

Man alive, just goes to show you never stop learning.

Be careful on the weighted dips- if you add weight, and go all the way down, you could set yourself up for a nasty inner pec injury- happened to me, when I used 100 pounds around my waist and went all the way down.
Couldn't flat bench for almost 2 years.
Now, I might add that weight, but I wouldn't go all the way down with it. Bodyweight, yes, 30-50 pounds plus, ok, but more, never.

 

[erickthegreat11]

I had gotten up to 20# on dips and felt the startings of the injury you had. I'm reluctant to do dips again b/c they stress the tris. My tris have gotten a lot, and I mean a lot, stronger. Within about 4 months I went from 22# to 52# for overhead db extensions. something works that good, I don't want to mess with it. BTW, incorporating db flyes has made a huge difference in benching. The weight felt so much lighter the last time. I'm going to bench again tomorrow, I'm going for 220# 2 reps for 6 sets. If I can do that, it means my max is 245# (going by my last 1RM and 2x6 max).

 

[louden_swain]

I like flyes. Without them I could not have achieved extra bulk. When I perform flyes, I use moderate weights. . . . don't want to get the pec tendon in a precarious position.