damn my step-son is in trouble

[Pat_McCrotch]

Seriously suggest to him that he enlist in the marines and talk to the recuiter about going into a infantry unit. It will either make or break him.

yea join the marines. we have a kid here that likes to drink smoke weed and get out of control. yea join a branch in the military where they are known for getting drunk, weed, fighting and he will stay out of trouble. The boot camp idea for teens is costly but it does good. they instill discipline, work ethic, and puts the fear of God in them. I worked for a boys home in texas with the worst of the worst kids in the state. They left juvy and came to us. Some kids went to boot camp from us by choice and came back a whole new person. His life was not easier but it changed for the better. Once he is back he or yall need to move from his current circle of friends. If he goes back to them all the everytime he gets off or out of trouble he will only grt in more trouble.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

How is being trained to kill other people going to make a 'good man' out of this kid? This is what I don't get about people. They seem to be oblivious to the purpose of the Defence Forces (now Attack Forces). It looks all glorious with nice uniforms, high tech machinery and ego inflating weapons. Where is the glory in being a marine? Ask anyone that has been in actual combat. How is he going to benefit having an officer shouting obscenities at him during training going to make him at peace with himself. Forced discipline works for nobody.

I would probe him for his source of anger/rebellion and help him channel it in another direction. Bodybuilding did it for me. I doubt I would be alive today if it wasn't for BB and good medication. I was a kid born into the conflict of Apartheid in South Africa. I became angry and violent and let me tell you that violence solves NOTHING! Help him to see the best side of himself and he will choose.....

Forced discipilne wokrs for thousands of soldierss who go through boot camps!!!! I came out a much better person. gave me a work ethic that i did not have when I was a kid. When I was forced to complete a task all the way through it showed me things about myself. Forced discipline is great!!!!!!

 

[BigBlu]

Forced discipilne wokrs for thousands of soldierss who go through boot camps!!!! I came out a much better person. gave me a work ethic that i did not have when I was a kid. When I was forced to complete a task all the way through it showed me things about myself. Forced discipline is great!!!!!!

It may have worked for you. I don't know what you mean by becoming 'a much better person', relative to who or what? We are all humans with a free will that doesn't enjoy supression of expression. We're moving into a new era bro. One where we need learn and project self-love. Telling people how to live their lives doesn't work anymore. Take a look at governments. They tell you what to do everyday. Do you like it?

The kid needs to know that some gives a fuck about him and show him his immense potential as a human. Military brainwashing might make you behave like a good automaton, but that is not necessarily 'good' for anyone. It just makes people behave in a manner that other people believe to be 'acceptable'.

I appreciate your perspective, but it's a bit old school.

 

[D_Mac]

i know this doesnt go here but i dont know where else to put it. my step-son has been on probation since september 2006, he was given 1 year of probation for possession of marijuana,possession of weapon, school zone, intent to distribute, and about 2 months after all that, he was arrested for disorderly conduct because he was drunk. he had court for all the charges on the same day and the judge said hes gonna give him a choice to take 60 days in a juvenile detention or 1 year of probation so he took the 1 year probation. he is in an adult school and needed 50 credits at the time which is 10 classes, now he only needs 10 credits to graduate by june. and in february 2007(last month) he was arrested for possession of alcohol, the charge was possession of alcohol while underage. he went to his probation officer and told her and she said she has to violate him because the judge knows that hes on probation, but she going to tell the judge that hes been doing good and she will suggest a 6 week boot camp program instead of going to juvie bexcause juvie wont do anything but make things worse for him. hes also been going to a drug and alcohol counseling, he gets the drug/alcohol test twice a week and he hasnt failed any of them. his court date just came and its on march 30th 2007. so what im trying to figure out is if there is a big chance that he will be sent to a juvenile detetion home or will he just have to go to alcohol meetings instead?

even though hes not my real blood son, it still bothers me. hes a good kid but just makes stupid decisions and hes still young. hes 17, 18 in july.

anyone with any imput?

im really worried about him

Encourage the boot camp, it will do a few things for him.

Get him in damn good shape
Teach him some self discipline
Put a hard reminder on him about getting in trouble.

When I was younger I drank and fought a lot, it caught up with me eventually and I spent a night in Jail. Looking back on it if I had spent that night earlier in life I would have saved myself more than one blackout night, a few aviodable fights (most I was in the right, but some coulda been avioded) and a few good friendships that I miss, as well as a couple grand in fines and court fees....

Send him to boot camp, show him it's an opportunity not a punishment, it will improve him all around and he will be looking good when he gets out.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

It may have worked for you. I don't know what you mean by becoming 'a much better person', relative to who or what? We are all humans with a free will that doesn't enjoy supression of expression. We're moving into a new era bro. One where we need learn and project self-love. Telling people how to live their lives doesn't work anymore. Take a look at governments. They tell you what to do everyday. Do you like it?

The kid needs to know that some gives a fuck about him and show him his immense potential as a human. Military brainwashing might make you behave like a good automaton, but that is not necessarily 'good' for anyone. It just makes people behave in a manner that other people believe to be 'acceptable'.

I appreciate your perspective, but it's a bit old school.

Someone is in the middle of PCT? self love. hahahahaha yes we need to love ourselves. For a person who as this kid is self love will not help him. he needs direction. all this free bullshit you speak of is killing our kids. Since we have cut back on ass whoopins and startted time outs our country has gone to shit. look at our crime rate and unwed children whose brothers and sisters all have different daddys.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

You have to have goverments tell you what to do if not then there would be chaos and anarchy. true I dont like a lot of laws they have. it made me a better person not compared to anyone other than myself. it showed me i could do something as difficult as bootcamp. Attitudes like yours is whats turning our kids into a bunch of pussies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[D_Mac]

Someone is in the middle of PCT? self love. hahahahaha yes we need to love ourselves. For a person who as this kid is self love will not help him. he needs direction. all this free bullshit you speak of is killing our kids. Since we have cut back on ass whoopins and startted time outs our country has gone to shit. look at our crime rate and unwed children whose brothers and sisters all have different daddys.

+1

 

[txbondsman]

good lawyers make great enablers! put your money away, let him make the choices then pay for them himself. Family digging them out of their shit only makes the pit bigger and deeper. You reading this from one who knows, I have a PHD. That's "Prolonged History of Drugs".
Help him when he helps himself first. Then and only then. period. You can be there for him, talk to him, put money on his books for commissary if he lands in juvi, but don't enable him to kill himself by buying his freedom.
Worked in a rehab center for 2 years, I have seen alot and experienced more. If you want further advise, PM me and we can go into it further.
Take my advise. Been there, done that...

 

[D_Mac]

get a good lawyer my friend. should be able to build a good enough case to keep him home. as much as boot camp sounds like a story book ending it is one a fantasy ending. you dont want him to rub elbows with the dregs of society in the boot camp. it only works on TV. he is only going to get so many chances with that PO tho. Have a sit down with him (just you and him). it worked with my 20 yr old brother in law. I just told him he was hurting the family, who had already been thru enough. forget about yourself for a sec and think about how it would hurt those you love to see you get locked up......something like that. Or just tell him to be more careful. Let his freinds/him come by your place and have a few or stay over.............

Talk about a fantasy ending...

If that works I'm Mikhail Gorbachev

 

[D_Mac]

this happened in nj where we live. o i know, he works out with me, i bring him to the vitaminn shoppe and we buy are shit, he works out with me. no juice for him tho. he doesnt know im on it tho. he also has an anger problem and tends to punch walls in his room when hes pissed. so i bought him a 100 pound punching bag, hasnt punched a wall since. hes in drug and alcohol counseling now, his probation officer told him to go. im really hoping that he doesnt have to go away, maybe extended probation and fines, i just dont think that juvie will do anything to him but make things worse considering that the kids in there kill people, rob houses,steal cars, assualts, worse things then just possession of alcohol

What do you think guys in big boy prison do???

He isn't going to jail for possession of alcohol, he is going for parole violation. The original crime was possesing enough pot to look like a dealer and having a weapon, thats the behavior that WILL land him in big boy jail...

Really man, better he go now and get it out of his system. If he goes there now maybe he will room with a murderer and it will scare the shit out of him, and he will decide it ain't worth it.

He is pushing the law, he was on probation and still walks around with alcohol..

He walks around with a decent amount of weed...

Sounds like he needs new friends and a new attitude, a sit down talk won't give that to him.