WildRocker69
New member
Hey Broskis, I need some opinions. A little exposition-
Short version: (Basically, mid cycle dr. prescribes me testosterone cypionate and now I'm not sure how to proceed).
Current dosing protocol:
2/5-2/11 Halodrol 25,25,50,50,75.75.75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/12-2/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/19-2/25 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 10,10,20,20,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/26-3/4 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,30,30,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/5-3/11 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/12-3/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 40,40,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
PCT
3-19-3/25 Nolva 40mg/day
3/26-4/1 Nolva 30mg/day
4/2-4/8 Nolva 20mg/day
4/9-4/15 Nolva 20mg/day
I was getting ready to run a cycle of LGI's Halodrol & RPN Havoc (Epistane). Before I get flamed and hated on-yes, running 2 methylated androgens is unwise; I was considering bridging them. I had preloaded with Damage Control, cissus for my joints, and NoEsgtrogen (6-Bromo) PES Erase Pro and DAA. (I have nolvadex on hand for PCT and on-cycle as a just-in-case). I got my bloods taken on 2/7 (third day of Halodrol and 2nd week of Erase Pro + Dpol [DAA]) and kept going on my cycle. I got a phone call a few days later saying my T levels are 289ng/dl and E is 55ng/dl. I am a 25 yr old male so needless to say, my T levels are WAY LOW. Low T explains the constant fatigue, cloudy mind, poor workout recovery, depression, anxiety, etc. I just didn't suspect Low T because hey, I'm 25 and super healthy, right? Anyway, Doc wanted to get me on TRT and prescribed me Test cyp 200mg/ml - 1 ml IM ONCE EVERY 4 WEEKS. (A part of me said, "Oh yeah! REAL gear!" Until I realized... wait... that's low and isn't going to keep my Test levels up through all 4 weeks... crap). Got my first dose on 2/11 and felt FREAKING PHENOMENAL- I went to jiujitsu that night and just dominated. I felt like me again! I've been absolutely tearing it up in the gym and I love it.
Anyway, I noticed a few days later that the nurse left 1/4ml in the vial... so I didn't even get the full dose. (Seriously? and you're a medical professional?) Anyway, I self administered the last 1/4ml last night (I work graveyard shift so this was my a.m.).
I can pick up my next dose from work (I work at a pharmacy) on 3/6-3/11. 3/11 marks the end of week 5 of my cycle above based on current dosing schedule.
I know this is a ridiculously low dose of test and with the half-life of Test C being 8 days, I know I'm going to be "hitting the wall" and will feel like crap the last 2 weeks before my next shot. I'm planning on asking my dr. to change my script to 100mg every other week (that way I'm not pushing for a higher dose and making him uncomfortable about prescribing a higher dose).
SO here's my question: best way to proceed?
Option1: Drop the cycle & hop straight into PCT so that if the doc orders bloods before I take my next Test C dose my T isn't jacked up from the halodrol. My thinking is if I stay on cycle and my T is up he will say, "Nope, that one shot looks like it'll do the trick, once every 4 weeks."
Option 1.5: Drop off the cycle without PCT and order bloodwork for 3/11 and hope the messed up T & E levels will get the dr. to prescribe a higher dose. (Definitely NOT a safe option; this I know).
Option 2: Change Halodrol dosing protocol from 75mg/day for 6 weeks to 100mg during weeks 3-5 and Week 5 would be the the time I can pick up my next dose of Test C. I would then cruise on the Test for a week, give my liver a break, use Nolva if necessary, then start up the Havoc that way my liver doesn't die from simultaneously running 2 methylated prohormones. The problem is whether or not the doc orders bloodwork.
Option 3: Get black market gear to supplement what the doc prescribed me so I don't feel like an octogenarian. Problem (other than convincing the wife that it's ok) is the possibility of losing my rx tech license and not getting into med school.
Option 4: Explain to my dr. about prohormones, tell him why I was getting my bloodwork done, etc...
So, what think ye my Iron-Clad Brethren?
Thanks for the replies and advice in advance.
Short version: (Basically, mid cycle dr. prescribes me testosterone cypionate and now I'm not sure how to proceed).
Current dosing protocol:
2/5-2/11 Halodrol 25,25,50,50,75.75.75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/12-2/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/19-2/25 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 10,10,20,20,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/26-3/4 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,30,30,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/5-3/11 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/12-3/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 40,40,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
PCT
3-19-3/25 Nolva 40mg/day
3/26-4/1 Nolva 30mg/day
4/2-4/8 Nolva 20mg/day
4/9-4/15 Nolva 20mg/day
I was getting ready to run a cycle of LGI's Halodrol & RPN Havoc (Epistane). Before I get flamed and hated on-yes, running 2 methylated androgens is unwise; I was considering bridging them. I had preloaded with Damage Control, cissus for my joints, and NoEsgtrogen (6-Bromo) PES Erase Pro and DAA. (I have nolvadex on hand for PCT and on-cycle as a just-in-case). I got my bloods taken on 2/7 (third day of Halodrol and 2nd week of Erase Pro + Dpol [DAA]) and kept going on my cycle. I got a phone call a few days later saying my T levels are 289ng/dl and E is 55ng/dl. I am a 25 yr old male so needless to say, my T levels are WAY LOW. Low T explains the constant fatigue, cloudy mind, poor workout recovery, depression, anxiety, etc. I just didn't suspect Low T because hey, I'm 25 and super healthy, right? Anyway, Doc wanted to get me on TRT and prescribed me Test cyp 200mg/ml - 1 ml IM ONCE EVERY 4 WEEKS. (A part of me said, "Oh yeah! REAL gear!" Until I realized... wait... that's low and isn't going to keep my Test levels up through all 4 weeks... crap). Got my first dose on 2/11 and felt FREAKING PHENOMENAL- I went to jiujitsu that night and just dominated. I felt like me again! I've been absolutely tearing it up in the gym and I love it.
Anyway, I noticed a few days later that the nurse left 1/4ml in the vial... so I didn't even get the full dose. (Seriously? and you're a medical professional?) Anyway, I self administered the last 1/4ml last night (I work graveyard shift so this was my a.m.).
I can pick up my next dose from work (I work at a pharmacy) on 3/6-3/11. 3/11 marks the end of week 5 of my cycle above based on current dosing schedule.
I know this is a ridiculously low dose of test and with the half-life of Test C being 8 days, I know I'm going to be "hitting the wall" and will feel like crap the last 2 weeks before my next shot. I'm planning on asking my dr. to change my script to 100mg every other week (that way I'm not pushing for a higher dose and making him uncomfortable about prescribing a higher dose).
SO here's my question: best way to proceed?
Option1: Drop the cycle & hop straight into PCT so that if the doc orders bloods before I take my next Test C dose my T isn't jacked up from the halodrol. My thinking is if I stay on cycle and my T is up he will say, "Nope, that one shot looks like it'll do the trick, once every 4 weeks."
Option 1.5: Drop off the cycle without PCT and order bloodwork for 3/11 and hope the messed up T & E levels will get the dr. to prescribe a higher dose. (Definitely NOT a safe option; this I know).
Option 2: Change Halodrol dosing protocol from 75mg/day for 6 weeks to 100mg during weeks 3-5 and Week 5 would be the the time I can pick up my next dose of Test C. I would then cruise on the Test for a week, give my liver a break, use Nolva if necessary, then start up the Havoc that way my liver doesn't die from simultaneously running 2 methylated prohormones. The problem is whether or not the doc orders bloodwork.
Option 3: Get black market gear to supplement what the doc prescribed me so I don't feel like an octogenarian. Problem (other than convincing the wife that it's ok) is the possibility of losing my rx tech license and not getting into med school.
Option 4: Explain to my dr. about prohormones, tell him why I was getting my bloodwork done, etc...
So, what think ye my Iron-Clad Brethren?
Thanks for the replies and advice in advance.