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Cycle Interruption- Need advice please.

WildRocker69

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Hey Broskis, I need some opinions. A little exposition-
Short version: (Basically, mid cycle dr. prescribes me testosterone cypionate and now I'm not sure how to proceed).

Current dosing protocol:
2/5-2/11 Halodrol 25,25,50,50,75.75.75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/12-2/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Erase Pro 1/day; NoEstrogen 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/19-2/25 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 10,10,20,20,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
2/26-3/4 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,30,30,30,30,30; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/5-3/11 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 30,30,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day
3/12-3/18 Halo 75,75,75,75,75,75,75; Havoc 40,40,40,40,40,40,40; EPro 1/day; NoE 1/day, D-Pol 3g/day

PCT
3-19-3/25 Nolva 40mg/day
3/26-4/1 Nolva 30mg/day
4/2-4/8 Nolva 20mg/day
4/9-4/15 Nolva 20mg/day

I was getting ready to run a cycle of LGI's Halodrol & RPN Havoc (Epistane). Before I get flamed and hated on-yes, running 2 methylated androgens is unwise; I was considering bridging them. I had preloaded with Damage Control, cissus for my joints, and NoEsgtrogen (6-Bromo) PES Erase Pro and DAA. (I have nolvadex on hand for PCT and on-cycle as a just-in-case). I got my bloods taken on 2/7 (third day of Halodrol and 2nd week of Erase Pro + Dpol [DAA]) and kept going on my cycle. I got a phone call a few days later saying my T levels are 289ng/dl and E is 55ng/dl. I am a 25 yr old male so needless to say, my T levels are WAY LOW. Low T explains the constant fatigue, cloudy mind, poor workout recovery, depression, anxiety, etc. I just didn't suspect Low T because hey, I'm 25 and super healthy, right? Anyway, Doc wanted to get me on TRT and prescribed me Test cyp 200mg/ml - 1 ml IM ONCE EVERY 4 WEEKS. (A part of me said, "Oh yeah! REAL gear!" Until I realized... wait... that's low and isn't going to keep my Test levels up through all 4 weeks... crap). Got my first dose on 2/11 and felt FREAKING PHENOMENAL- I went to jiujitsu that night and just dominated. I felt like me again! I've been absolutely tearing it up in the gym and I love it.

Anyway, I noticed a few days later that the nurse left 1/4ml in the vial... so I didn't even get the full dose. (Seriously? and you're a medical professional?) Anyway, I self administered the last 1/4ml last night (I work graveyard shift so this was my a.m.).

I can pick up my next dose from work (I work at a pharmacy) on 3/6-3/11. 3/11 marks the end of week 5 of my cycle above based on current dosing schedule.

I know this is a ridiculously low dose of test and with the half-life of Test C being 8 days, I know I'm going to be "hitting the wall" and will feel like crap the last 2 weeks before my next shot. I'm planning on asking my dr. to change my script to 100mg every other week (that way I'm not pushing for a higher dose and making him uncomfortable about prescribing a higher dose).

SO here's my question: best way to proceed?

Option1: Drop the cycle & hop straight into PCT so that if the doc orders bloods before I take my next Test C dose my T isn't jacked up from the halodrol. My thinking is if I stay on cycle and my T is up he will say, "Nope, that one shot looks like it'll do the trick, once every 4 weeks."
Option 1.5: Drop off the cycle without PCT and order bloodwork for 3/11 and hope the messed up T & E levels will get the dr. to prescribe a higher dose. (Definitely NOT a safe option; this I know).

Option 2: Change Halodrol dosing protocol from 75mg/day for 6 weeks to 100mg during weeks 3-5 and Week 5 would be the the time I can pick up my next dose of Test C. I would then cruise on the Test for a week, give my liver a break, use Nolva if necessary, then start up the Havoc that way my liver doesn't die from simultaneously running 2 methylated prohormones. The problem is whether or not the doc orders bloodwork.

Option 3: Get black market gear to supplement what the doc prescribed me so I don't feel like an octogenarian. Problem (other than convincing the wife that it's ok) is the possibility of losing my rx tech license and not getting into med school.

Option 4: Explain to my dr. about prohormones, tell him why I was getting my bloodwork done, etc...

So, what think ye my Iron-Clad Brethren?

Thanks for the replies and advice in advance.
 
Fuck there's a lot of reading there bro , lol.

But At a glance i would have to say that 200mg of test E every 4 weeks for TRT is fucking ridiculous ( 500mg of test decanoate might pass for a 4 week replacement , IDK but i doubt it )... what age are you BTW ?

your cycle is all prohormones and OTC shit that i have never even heard of, i have'nt used any of that crap in the last decade.

Its probably best to tell the doc you are using that gear so he can get a proper evaluation as to where your T levels are really at.
you could finish the cycle ...do pct then get bloods done a few weeks later and see where you are at before being assessed again for TRT.

I would also consider getting a second opinion from a different endocrinologist .
 
Haha, yeah its a butt-ton; sorry about that. I'd just rather give too much info than not enough. Plus, I'm long winded.

Yeah, there's so much OTC stuff it's ridiculous. I would totally run real juice since it's tested, way more effective, and has far fewer sides. Prohormones have never made me feel as good as that shot of T. (Crappy manufacturing compared to pharmaceutical grade gear... c'est la ve).

I'm 25 which is a big reason the 289ng/dl is so alarmingly low. Pretty sure it's genetic- uncle had low sperm counts and my dad is getting his T tested on Tuesday. Low T is a perfect explanation for all of the symptoms I had been experiencing: depression, anxiety (particularly social anxiety), constant fatigue, terrible recovery from workouts, less interest in sex...

Needless to say, both the wifey and I are feeling much better with me on TRT... hehehe...

I saw my family Dr. (Which explains the ultraconservative dosage regimen but at least he didn't prescribe me androgel). I may see an endo if my doc doesn't nudge up the dosage frequency, but I have a good relationship w/ my doc so I'll see. Also going to go in and show him I have proper IM technique so I don't have to go to the Dr. office to have it done.

I think I'll finish this cycle and PCT then have my bloods pulled before I take that dose.

Hey, thanks for the advice Colombo! +rep
 
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