Cutting: What to eat after an early morning cardio

[Slyder190]

Depends on the diet you're following. No need for a PW meal if there's no workout. If you have carbs at any point in the day on non-workout days, I'd say the earliest meal(s) is/are the best idea. After a cardio session, you'll be burnin up more calories, so that would be an opurtune time. If you don't normally eat carbs on non-workout days, then me personally, I'd stick to that plan regardless of a cardio session.

 

[Psykosik]

2 times a week i will do cardio on an empty stomach

Why ? On an empty stomach, your body relies on muscle glycogen as the most readily fuel. So you'll burn off muscles before burning fat. Is that what you really want ? If you don't care, then go ahead. But that's definitly a bad thing to do.

2 times a week cardio after weights

Why again ? Right after your finish a weight lifting session, you need to suppress cortisol as fast as possible. Doing cardio after lifting is counter-productive. Don't do cardio and weight lifting in the same session. Separate the days, or by at least 6 to 8 hours if done in the same day.
Read this scientifically researched article about your PWO Nutrition.
"Window of Opportunity" article.

 

[ASU]

Im willing to risk some muscle loss.. main goal is to burn the fat

 

[6_pak]

Why ? On an empty stomach, your body relies on muscle glycogen as the most readily fuel. So you'll burn off muscles before burning fat. Is that what you really want ? If you don't care, then go ahead. But that's definitly a bad thing to do.
Goal= fat burning, during fat burning(cutting stage)a minimal amount of muscle loss is acceptable. As you know, there are supps. that will eleviate catabolism, such as glutamine, which I suggested to ASU


Why again ? Right after your finish a weight lifting session, you need to suppress cortisol as fast as possible. Doing cardio after lifting is counter-productive. Don't do cardio and weight lifting in the same session. Separate the days, or by at least 6 to 8 hours if done in the same day.
Read this scientifically researched article about your PWO Nutrition.
"Window of Opportunity" article.

hey bro, we've already addressed ASU situation in earlier threads. ASU cant split. I agree its a double edged sword and the reasons behind it, but if you dont have any other choices, you have to prioritize with your goals, dont you agree???

 

[ASU]

6pak, you saying in order to get to my goal I need to workout after the early morning cardio training?

 

[6_pak]

6pak, you saying in order to get to my goal I need to workout after the early morning cardio training?

Im saying you need to prioritize, the most important goal at the time. If its weight training, do it first; if its fat burning, cardio first.
Let me put it another way. Say your working out chest and biceps- you wouldnt do biceps first, because its a smaller muscle that requires less stimulation and breakdown, so you do chest first. And if chest is a weaker bodypart for you, then you do it first in the week.PRIORITIZE.

 

[reelbig004]

It makes sense to me that doing cardio on an empty stomach is best for fat loss, which would be your main reason for doing it, right??? your glycogen levels are depleted, for this reason the fat burning process will be jump started quicker. I believe that if you eat carbs prior to cardio, the calories from the carbs will be burned off first. This isnt optimal.

Also, why would you have a pwo if you dont weight lift that day. The purpose of the pwo is to restore muscle glycogen that had been used up during weight training. If you dont weight train, you dont need the pwo. NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER. Actually, the extra sugars will definitely hurt your diet. This is a fact, not just my opinion, so take it for what its worth.

After cardio, wait 30 min, eat a fat/pro meal. By the time of your next meal, 2-3 hours later, you would be ready for pro/carb meal. By doing this you are prolonging the fat burning process. FYI, eating carbs after cardio, halts the fat burning process!!!!

Right on!

However, many feel that after HIIT training (for 20 minutes or so) it is necessary to have a protein + carb (optimally dextrose) to insure muscle catabolism does not occur.

 

[6_pak]

Right on!

However, many feel that after HIIT training (for 20 minutes or so) it is necessary to have a protein + carb (optimally dextrose) to insure muscle catabolism does not occur.

Im not well versed in HIIT(cardio) and the nutrition required before/after.
IMO, best method for fat loss is 65-80% heart rate(low-intensity).

 

[ASU]

I'll do what works for me better

 

[Quadsweeps Sister]

Im saying you need to prioritize, the most important goal at the time. If its weight training, do it first; if its fat burning, cardio first.
Let me put it another way. Say your working out chest and biceps- you wouldnt do biceps first, because its a smaller muscle that requires less stimulation and breakdown, so you do chest first. And if chest is a weaker bodypart for you, then you do it first in the week.PRIORITIZE.

After reading through the posts - I'm in agreement with this one because of the following reasons: (1) After you have slept, your body has been without nutrition for 6-8 hours and the best to give is whole food at meal one. Protein (Eggs, lean meat) plus carbs (Grapefruit, oats) should be eaten. There is generally a bit of fat in the meat. I choose tuna or beef.

(2) Prioritization is key. You can either do some black coffee cardio or train. If training is your main focus "that day" then do it first to conserve your energy for it - then finish with some quick HIT cardio if needed. On non-lift days maybe some black coffee cardio with more intensity than on training days. I personally never mixed my cardio and training too much unless I was getting ready for a show and had too. If I didn't eat before I trained heavy - my lifts would just suffer. I admire those who train in the morning and know its hard to eat so early...which is the main reason I train at night. By that time I have 4 meals in me. Good luck to you.