clenbutrol for fatloss

[queenb]

I am curious as to the sucess of clenbutrol. I am not a bodybuilder however i am looking to rid of some unwanted fat. Currently i am 5ft7ish and roughly 160lbs, but most people guess i am around 135lbs. (i dont correct them) My job is very physical (carpenter) and i lead a extreamly active lifestyle. I have alot of muscle (obvious by my actual weight) and dont want to part with it, i just want to see it.
So Clenbutrol. does it work. ie. i dont want to bulk up anymore. will i lose some of my unwanted fat. And most importanly what is the most legit web site to purchase from.
thanks

 

[Sassy69]

To start, here are a bunch of threads already discussing this:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1343806

Clen is overrated for fat loss & tends to be the first entry into controlled substance use. You sound about my stats, but no idea bodyfat. I'm a competitive BB so I have plenty of mass. I rely on diet, cardio & carb cycling to cut. You can check AG-guys.com for liquid clen, but I personally wouldn't bother recommending that for somehting you can probably accomplish w/ diet first.

What does your diet look like now - specifically - meal by meal - what do you eat, how much, when do you eat?

 

[*Bunny*]

queenb this is a VERY common question. I am trying to get a better idea of why women would think this is the answer. I know you are asking about it specifically, but may I ask what led you to consider clen? TV? Mags? Media? etc.

I would appreciate any feedback

 

[Sassy69]

Easy:

- its not a steroid but its a controlled substance, so anyone, particularly guys who are aware of non-OTC drugs will point a chick (their g/f or whoever) to clen if they want to "lose weight & tone up".
- because it is a controlled substance it carries the aura of magic - pill so it must work.
- Guys rave about it - but guys have different body chemistry than women do - also do we know if the guy is on AAS too?
- lately its been in all the hollywood news as the "magic pill all the girls are taking"

Its not to say it doens't have some value as a SUPPLEMENT, but the sides are annoying as shit, particularly the tension headaches & the feeling that you are hungry all the time, and the probable situation that you haven't really optimized yoru diet already - lots of people think they "eat clean" but it must be soemthign else that will get them better results. ITS THE DIET! Is your diet optimized as if you were competing? Usual response - Well I'm not competing, I just want to lose some bodyfat. OK then why the hell are you considering a controlled substance that you dont' know about because you are here askign the question, but you won't consider that you can probably get your diet more optimized than what you currently call "eating clean"?

IF you have HONESTLY optimized your diet & training as if you were competing (doens't matter that you don't want to, but you are still willing to look at drugs used for comepetition - so the standards of when you will or won't do something "because you aren't competing" have just been double-standarded), then I'd say, sure explore clen. Decide if its what you want -- because it will only work as good as the diet & training it is SUPPLEMENTING.


BTW that's not to say that just because something is OTC & "legal" that it works better, but there is this aura around controlled stuff that makes people think it must be magical.

 

[queenb]

As far as my body fat goes I have the average, and would bye no means consider myself fat or out of shape. My diet consist of meat and mostly greens. ( i cannot each alot of carbs because of the sugers which give me acid reflux). I eat usually 4 small full meals a day and never find myself hungry. I need to eat that much for work.
i found out about the clenbutrol for a friend who used be into light weight bb in england. she said it wroked but made her nervous. I know that feeling because i used to take ritalin (40mg) in university.but it never bothered me.

 

[Sassy69]

"Nervous" is a generous word. Made me feel like I was on the edge of a 12 hr panic attack. 3 day tension headaches & always had that nagging feeligni like I was hungry- even if I just ate my carb meal.

I think your diet is where we need to start. If you eat 4 small meals / day and little complex carb, my guess is you are probably eating at starvation level, your body thinks it is in a drought situation and has slowed down your metabolic burn rate to preserve all the bodyfat & energy source that you currently have. If you throw clen on top of that I personally think your body won't like you. You will be putting in something that will up your burn rate a little bit, but will be fighting w/ your body's metabolic rate that is determined by the diet that you eat. Why take the complicated FORCE THAT BASTARD method?

Can you post up your diet first? If you can, can you put your day's meal plan into a food counts program like www.fitday.com so you REALLY see what you are eating - how much & what is the total macronutrient breakdown (protein / fat / carb). If you don't eat much carb, you are probably also running in near ketosis state and that does not make for a great way to drop bodyfat and really sux for energy for better quality training & recovery.

Sorry to not answer w/ a straight answer to your first question, but its still all basic nutrition & biochemistry. If we can just review your diet, we'll have more insight into your situation & how you can better get to your goals. Your friend was a lightweight BB -- that means she ran an optimized diet & training regimen that the clen supplemented. THerefore she probably got some results. It sounds like you are starving yourself and clen won't help that because there are other metabolic isues goingn on. Also do you eat any good quality fats? And I'm also intereted to see if some of the girls can't help find some alternate solutions to the acid reflux situation.

 

[queenb]

breakfast either tuna with advocado and a whole grape fruit. if i dont have time in the morning a large bowl of oatmeal and with some berries ( for flavor). I can eat some whole grains.
morning snack: 2 hard boiled eggs, wich a spinich salad
Lunch: chicken breast with usually broc and brussel sprouts (lots, i was never the kid to feed them to the dog)
Dinner: Often fish or chicken (bbq) with steamed greens and tomatoes, asperagus(but it makes your pee stink)
I often endulge on good cheeses here and there and have glass of red wine every other day...my family is french. i love cheese please dont say this is the problem...mmm brie
So i dont starv my self, I definitly eat small meals compared to the guys at work though.
Oh also, going to a gym is out of the question, not because i dont enjoy it, but my body needs a break from the physical stress all day at work.
yeah and as far as the acid reflux, throw the suggestions this way

 

[Sassy69]

If you can eat the oatmeal, does that cause acid reflux?

I know that you are comparing your intake w/ guys at work - I'm comparing your intake to mine for competition. I eat 5-6 meals w/ 35 g protein in every one of them - this is 4 oz chicken or 12 oz of fish, 6 egg whites, etc. I eat broccoli by the ton but also include a couple meals w/ 3 oz yams or potatos and also often include 1/2 c oatmeal. I don't know the portion size of these meals - can you put this into a food counts program like www.fitday.com - its a free online account to add up all the total calories, protein , fat, carbs that you consume and that shows you REALLY what you eat.

The only reason I am really pursuing this is because, like i said, you are willing to ingest a controlled substance so I think that you should also take the time to take a good look at your diet and identify any easy changes you can make to get nearly the same results as w/ the clen but w/o the clen. No cost, no nervousness, no headaches, and its a habit change that you can maintain. Say you lose some bodyfat on a clen cycle, then you come off and go back to your same diet? Your body will probably settle back to the bodyfat level that you have w/ your diet now.

Here's one thing to keep in mind when you compare what you are doign to what a competitive BB does - competitors are dieting down & runnign cycles of stuff to look a certain way on a certain time of day on competition day. They fully expect to rebound and do NOT expect to maintain that look and the results of the diet & any supps (oTC or otherwise) after their show day. People who don't compete seem to think that whatever a competitor does, they can do & maintain the results. The methods are viewed as the same but the expectations are different.