you know so many people chime in about no crabs and looking "flat" or "soft", well i tend to disagree. I think I look fantastic when i'm less bloated, more ab defination, more everything defination. Mak is a great example too as he said he doesn't carb up for his shoots. I suppose if i were to be at 5% or something perhaps i'd have a different outlook, but at my current 10-11% i like the deflated look..lol, perhaps it's just cause im a bigger guy at 6'4" 255 (after my carb up
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