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CARDIO is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY!!!

spatts: I'd say that fast, intense rope jumping for one minute intervals with one minute rest in-between "sets" will burn more calories than jogging for 20 minutes. No doubt about it.

Debasser: You're missing the point. And I don't feel like explaining it again.
 
Wow, that's a pretty effective way of skirting the issue.

How is it missing the point? How about you just humor me. Considering your point is that aerobic work is ineffective, and that I am arguing against that by saying DC has made countless people ripped by merely upping their cardio and keeping their diet pretty much the same, I don't see what leg you have to stand on. Do you even understand the glycogen issue? Oh wait I forgot, nutrient timing doesn't work according to you. Glycogen and insulin must not exist, or be pertinent in any way. But since it works for me and all these other trainees, we'll continue to do it. I fail to understand how the fat comes off if it doesn't work, however.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
slobber: You inadvertantly proved the anti-aerobics stance. Jumping rope does NOT fit into the definition of aerobic. Aerobic is along sustained, low intensity activity. Robe jumping for one minute intervals is most definitely ANerobic -- closer to weight lifting where the HR jumps up quickly but only for a short while, which is MUCH BETTER for heart strength. Weight training IS cardio! (but prentend I didn't say that or all the pro-aerobicisers heads will explode).

DTOX: Get ready to retract your statement. I've spoken to many pros and although some still engage in aerobics (nobody said they were smart) many of them use a "circut training" type of workout. Higher reps, short rest etc.

Using the methods of the pros is absurd anyway. Their goals is to look good on a particular night, by any means possible. That has nothing to do with what most BB's do.
 
Nelson Montana said:
DTOX: Get ready to retract your statement. I've spoken to many pros and although some still engage in aerobics (nobody said they were smart) many of them use a "circut training" type of workout. Higher reps, short rest etc.

Like I said, I'll edit my post when I *see it firsthand* in the gym. :)

And I have a feeling I'll be waiting a longggggggg time.
 
If Nelson saw the diet I was having right now that's causing me to lose fat, he'd have to have his foot removed from his mouth with a crowbar. I'm probably eating more than many guys here do while "bulking."
 
Debaser said:
If Nelson saw the diet I was having right now that's causing me to lose fat, he'd have to have his foot removed from his mouth with a crowbar. I'm probably eating more than many guys here do while "bulking."



So what's your point? You're obviously still burning more calories than you're ingesting regardless of how much you're eating -- unless you somehow managed to re-write the laws of biochemistry.

Are you suggesting it's due to aerobics? That's a different story. Just remember; You can drive from New York to New Jersy by way of Chicago...but that doesn't mean it's the most efficient route.
 
Just my opinion but I personally feel cardio is a must in ANYONES shedule...Not only to help maintain a lower body fat for some people hut just to maintain an overall healthy lifestyle...I personally feel like total shit if I neglect cardio for a longer period of time so even when I am bulking I still try to do it at least 2-3 times a week of a light job on the treadmill for at least 15-20...gotta keep that heart healthy :) As much as you guys may hate it now, it will pay off in the long run

M18
 
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Is stairmaster cardio considerered a form of cardio? WHen i do 500 calories on the treadmill compared to that of the stairmaster, the stairmaster is 10x easier
 
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