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If you think both sexes should train the same, think again



by Charles Poliquin



One of the most common questions asked in the field of strength training is "Should women train differently from men? Before giving you the simple answer, I have to say I am astounded that many personal trainers and strength coaches believe there are no differences.

As a result of this belief, these coaches and trainers use the same exercises and workout protocols for female and male athletes alike and offer them the same dietary advice. These coaches are, at best, simply ignorant; but at worst they are just too lazy to keep up with current research and find ways to apply it to their athletes. Regardless of the reason, the result is the same: It's the female athletes who suffer.



One excuse strength coaches use for using unisex workout programs is that they are often overwhelmed with training too many athletes. It's a case of "follow the money." These coaches will concentrate their research, interest and attention on the male athletes because they generally bring the most notoriety to their program. In college, for example, you'll often find that the head strength coaches will focus on the football team - because, let's face it, football generates the majority of income for many sport programs - and will let their graduate assistants handle the gymnasts and volleyball players.



When women are treated as second-class citizens, the result is a lack of enthusiasm and commitment to the program. And it's the coaches' loss, because what many strength coaches miss out on is that training women can be especially rewarding.



I've found that female clients are often far easier to coach than male clients, perhaps because women generally don't let their egos spoil the methodology and they follow instructions far better than men tend to do. In 1994 I coached seven women who became world champions in their respective sports. And the trait they all had in common was a commitment to communicate with me on a regular basis, enabling me to finely tune their training loads for maximum results.



Of course, no discussion of women's training would be adequate without addressing the question of "bulking up," as the myth persists that within a few weeks of training, women will start to look like the governor of California in his hey days. The fact is it is much harder for women to hypertrophy than men. This is not only because of women's lower androgen levels but also because women have only about 60 percent of the number of muscle-fiber nuclei compared to men. You might say that there is simply less raw material to work with.



There is no argument that weight training builds muscle in women, and it is also true that some exceptional female athletes will develop high levels of hypertrophy. Generally speaking, however, female trainees tend to develop most of their hypertrophy during the first year of training. Then it plateaus dramatically, so that strength gains come mainly through neural adaptations.



How strong can a woman become? Pound for pound (and taking into consideration their naturally higher bodyfat levels), women who are properly trained can have stronger legs than men. And contrary to popular belief, women can develop significant levels of strength in the upper body.



The upper-body lift that women can use to most closely approximate the results achieved by men is the chin-up (palms facing away from the body) and its variation the pull-up (palms facing the body). Again, that assumes that the women have been trained by competent trainers. Actually, this is one way I evaluate the quality of knowledge of a personal trainer or strength coach. A competent trainer or coach should be able to enable a female trainee (assuming that the client is not clinically obese) to perform 12 chin-ups in three months.



The most difficult lift for women to do well, compared to men, is overhead presses. On the basis of muscle pound for muscle pound, women achieve about 58 to 66 percent of the strength performances in this lift compared to their male counterparts. Thus, a male trainee who can overhead press 200 pounds would find that his female equivalent (in terms of training experience) might be able to lift, at best, 130 pounds.



Beyond Anatomy

Besides the anatomical differences between the sexes, there may be less-obvious cultural differences to consider. For example, female athletes from North America are often weaker in relative terms in the vastus medialis muscles, hamstrings, erector spinae, and scapulae retractors compared to female athletes from other parts of the world. Trainers of women who hope to compete at the highest levels in athletics must address these relative weaknesses.



Regarding training frequency, in the early stages of training most women need to train each muscle group three days a week for optimal gains. The Chinese have been very successful at training weightlifters, both men and women, at the international level. Upon analyzing their training system, what stood out to me is that they used a much higher training frequency with the women than the men. Women should, in effect, train heavy and train hard; but, most importantly, they should train fast.



Although the training frequency should be greater for women compared to men, the training volume per training unit should be smaller due to lower androgen levels. This means that women should perform fewer sets and fewer exercises than men. Generally, I've found that the training volume per training unit should be 20 to 30 percent lower.



As a female athlete gets stronger, I've found that her training protocols should more closely resemble those of her male counterparts. Unfortunately, it can take a considerable amount of time for women to reach this level because often women have had the disadvantage of being trained in inferior weight training programs for so long.



These inferior training programs are unacceptable; trainers and coaches of women must not ignore the relevant differences between the sexes. Competent and gender-specific training is what is needed for girls and women to achieve superior performance. So, getting back to our original question, "Should women train differently than men?" the simple answer is an unequivocal "Yes!"
 
I think this is a pile of crap.


Oi, girlfriend, please elaborate on why you think it is a pile of crap.

I think that the focus of this article is strength training/power lifting.

I do think that Charles has a point with reducing the training volume for women, especially with upper body work as so many wome really have minimal amounts of muscle on their arms.
 
Oi, girlfriend, please elaborate on why you think it is a pile of crap.

I think that the focus of this article is strength training/power lifting.

I do think that Charles has a point with reducing the training volume for women, especially with upper body work as so many wome really have minimal amounts of muscle on their arms.

I will answer this post When I grow a vagina. For now I ain't yo girlfriend. J/k


A muscle is a muscle. So a skinny little tooth pic man should train like a girl? No if little skinny man wants big muscles he trains like the rest of the men.

Yes If a women has different goals then train different. But if a man and a women have the same goal in mind why should they train any different?


IMO just sparking some debate and all that shit. Lets hear your side.
 
Because of the lower volume assumption for women I felt the need to experiment a little recently. I just finished up a 6 week high volume program that yielded me the most results I've ever seen. This article focuses on gender - which is only one aspect of how a person should train. Each individual is different - male or female. Everyone responds differently to different training variations - some of this can be attributed to mentality - if you enjoy your workouts you are more likely going to see better results because of the intensity of your training.

Although our (women's) hormone makeup is very different our muscle performs the same way. Shouldn't they respond in the same manner? I think there is much more to it than Charles is responding too - but that is what makes articles - pick a topic and go with it. Take it as a grain of salt my friends.
 
because of the lower volume assumption for women i felt the need to experiment a little recently. I just finished up a 6 week high volume program that yielded me the most results i've ever seen. This article focuses on gender - which is only one aspect of how a person should train. Each individual is different - male or female. Everyone responds differently to different training variations - some of this can be attributed to mentality - if you enjoy your workouts you are more likely going to see better results because of the intensity of your training.

Although our (women's) hormone makeup is very different our muscle performs the same way. Shouldn't they respond in the same manner? I think there is much more to it than charles is responding too - but that is what makes articles - pick a topic and go with it. Take it as a grain of salt my friends.
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Because of the lower volume assumption for women I felt the need to experiment a little recently. I just finished up a 6 week high volume program that yielded me the most results I've ever seen. This article focuses on gender - which is only one aspect of how a person should train. Each individual is different - male or female. Everyone responds differently to different training variations - some of this can be attributed to mentality - if you enjoy your workouts you are more likely going to see better results because of the intensity of your training.

Although our (women's) hormone makeup is very different our muscle performs the same way. Shouldn't they respond in the same manner? I think there is much more to it than Charles is responding too - but that is what makes articles - pick a topic and go with it. Take it as a grain of salt my friends.


Please note that the author doesn't mention chemical enhancement... and does say that women should work more like men once they hit a cetain experience level, nevertheless he also says that some women will develop great hypertrophy but that's like 1 in a ? and yes muscle in men and women are different... not only because of the "lower-androgen levels but because women have only 60% of muscle fiber nuclei" so if the major population of women as less nuclei his point is clear.

About the author... he is a great strebgth coach of olympic athletes, football players, basketball, Ice hockey blah, blah and does his articles based on up-to-date scientific data, personal experience as a coach and practionier as well. And I'm pretty sure that indirectly some of his knowledge reached your workout/diet/lifestyle... Do some search on the author or go to Charles Poliquin - Welcome to the Poliquin Performance Centre Online you will be amazed.
 
Please note that the author doesn't mention chemical enhancement... and does say that women should work more like men once they hit a cetain experience level, nevertheless he also says that some women will develop great hypertrophy but that's like 1 in a ? and yes muscle in men and women are different... not only because of the "lower-androgen levels but because women have only 60% of muscle fiber nuclei" so if the major population of women as less nuclei his point is clear.

About the author... he is a great strebgth coach of olympic athletes, football players, basketball, Ice hockey blah, blah and does his articles based on up-to-date scientific data, personal experience as a coach and practionier as well. And I'm pretty sure that indirectly some of his knowledge reached your workout/diet/lifestyle... Do some search on the author or go to Charles Poliquin - Welcome to the Poliquin Performance Centre Online you will be amazed.

hmmm some good shit here.
 
Please note that the author doesn't mention chemical enhancement... and does say that women should work more like men once they hit a cetain experience level, nevertheless he also says that some women will develop great hypertrophy but that's like 1 in a ? and yes muscle in men and women are different... not only because of the "lower-androgen levels but because women have only 60% of muscle fiber nuclei" so if the major population of women as less nuclei his point is clear.

About the author... he is a great strebgth coach of olympic athletes, football players, basketball, Ice hockey blah, blah and does his articles based on up-to-date scientific data, personal experience as a coach and practionier as well. And I'm pretty sure that indirectly some of his knowledge reached your workout/diet/lifestyle... Do some search on the author or go to Charles Poliquin - Welcome to the Poliquin Performance Centre Online you will be amazed.
Yep, familiar with him - read this gender training article a while back and get newsletters from his site. He is a great marketer and has made his presence in the training industry based on his scientific approach. Which I love, we all need to understand how our bodies work so that we can best train them. You are right about the muscle fiber - thus why women cannot grow mass unless chemically enhanced. However, the muscle performs the same way and "responds" the same as far as strength - he wrote an article about this some time ago too. He has some very valid points but I guarantee he trains his lady power lifters the same as his male clients - so I like your comment about "experienced". As with all scientific research, it is variable. Thanks for sharing all of this! He has some great reads that make you question how/why/when.
 
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