It can be done naturally if you're willing to put in the time. I was actually bigger than this naturally, but wedding/honeymoon recently made consistency difficult, but the point is I did get to this point without drugs. I really do think too many guys pussy out and jump on the drug bandwagon before putting in their time in the gym first
Now that I've found my natural genetic limit, it's time to find out how far I can get the other way.