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N=1 fallacy.
I went to high school with kids that had a gun rack in their 4 wheel drive with a rifle and shotgun...in the parking lot.;Not a single school shooting from adults or teens. We were raised to shoot and hunt from an early age and lesson #1 is to never point a weapon at something you aren't willing to kill. I think the more important question is why rural high gun ownership communities that are just as poor as the inner city have much lower firearm violence rates than cities.
Hmmm. Nobody carries guns down under. We got lots of psycho assholes with short fuses. They usually end up punching each others lights out on Friday and Saturday nights. If we had wide spread gun ownership here we'd probably have a blood bath every other week.
When the Howard gubment cracked down on gun ownership after the Port Arthur massacre murder rate fell by more than 50%. All other violent crime fell as well. But crime had been on a downward trend for a long time anyway. What went down most is the suicide rate. Turns out most people who contemplate suicide don't actually go through with it if it takes any kind of planning/effort. But if you have a gun then suicide is so easy. Just a trigger pull away.
America now has more guns than people. That's what I heard, don't shoot me if I'm wrong. So maybe you're too far gone to do anything about gun presence in society anyway. I don't know if restricting gun ownership will change anything at this stage. All I can say is that living in a society where nobody (except law enforcement) has guns is statistically much safer. Homocide rate in my state is around 1 per 100k. Much rarer than car accidents, hospital screw ups, work place fatalities etc.
Basically you don't need a gun if nobody else has one.
b0und (just randomly dropping in, hi guys)
Hmmm. Nobody carries guns down under. We got lots of psycho assholes with short fuses. They usually end up punching each others lights out on Friday and Saturday nights. If we had wide spread gun ownership here we'd probably have a blood bath every other week.
When the Howard gubment cracked down on gun ownership after the Port Arthur massacre murder rate fell by more than 50%. All other violent crime fell as well. But crime had been on a downward trend for a long time anyway. What went down most is the suicide rate. Turns out most people who contemplate suicide don't actually go through with it if it takes any kind of planning/effort. But if you have a gun then suicide is so easy. Just a trigger pull away.
America now has more guns than people. That's what I heard, don't shoot me if I'm wrong. So maybe you're too far gone to do anything about gun presence in society anyway. I don't know if restricting gun ownership will change anything at this stage. All I can say is that living in a society where nobody (except law enforcement) has guns is statistically much safer. Homocide rate in my state is around 1 per 100k. Much rarer than car accidents, hospital screw ups, work place fatalities etc.
Basically you don't need a gun if nobody else has one.
b0und (just randomly dropping in, hi guys)
Are we really gonna have this stupid ass argument here again?
We have it a few times a year it seems, and the anti-gun retarded fuckwits always get pwnt and shown the door by people with common fucking sense.
Loud Music Murder Defendant: I Feared For My Life - NBC News
"N" is up to 2 now. In reality N=thousands...we just never get to hear about em. After the Aurora shooting the NRA stated how much safer movie theatres would be if people were packing. Sure...even better would be like trained professionals, perhaps former police officers? Yeah works great huh? Now there's yet another case of a skerred old white dude shooting up a car full of colored boys cause he "PINKY SWEARS" he saw a gun.....aaaaannnnd no gun, yet again. Here's a fact from the case..."Dunn left the scene went to a bed-and-breakfast and did not report the shooting until the next day, when he got back home." Sounds legit. If I shot someone who I truly thought was pointing a gun at me, my first stop would be the local PD after gettting the fuck out of there. But hey, bed and breakfasts are super cool i'd want to get back there stat too and just forget about the whole discharging of my firearm too. It sounds like from his own testimony that the kids turned the music off when he asked them, but then said some shit and he said "you talking to me"? Aaaannd we're back to my earlier point, as a whole this culture is incapable of the responsibility and lack the coping skills necessary. Half of all the gun owners here just itch to have an excuse, exactly what i'm talking about.
Loud Music Murder Defendant: I Feared For My Life - NBC News
"N" is up to 2 now. In reality N=thousands...we just never get to hear about em. After the Aurora shooting the NRA stated how much safer movie theatres would be if people were packing. Sure...even better would be like trained professionals, perhaps former police officers? Yeah works great huh? Now there's yet another case of a skerred old white dude shooting up a car full of colored boys cause he "PINKY SWEARS" he saw a gun.....aaaaannnnd no gun, yet again. Here's a fact from the case..."Dunn left the scene went to a bed-and-breakfast and did not report the shooting until the next day, when he got back home." Sounds legit. If I shot someone who I truly thought was pointing a gun at me, my first stop would be the local PD after gettting the fuck out of there. But hey, bed and breakfasts are super cool i'd want to get back there stat too and just forget about the whole discharging of my firearm too. It sounds like from his own testimony that the kids turned the music off when he asked them, but then said some shit and he said "you talking to me"? Aaaannd we're back to my earlier point, as a whole this culture is incapable of the responsibility and lack the coping skills necessary. Half of all the gun owners here just itch to have an excuse, exactly what i'm talking about.