Alternatives to Clomid??

Big Rick Rock · Dec 18, 2007

Nelson Montana said:
And in some cases lower it, hence experimental. If it raised test so well it'd be prescribed for HRT. It is not.

And BTW, I've speaking out against Clomid for years and recommending instead the ingredients which are in UNLEASHED years before the product was available.

I know at least 2 guys who could NOT get their HRT clinics to prescribe Clomid. They would get scripts for Test and Deca from rejuvenation clinics, but they were REFUSED a script for Clomid, the clinic people told them to stay away from Clomid and gave them a script for HCG instead.

eddymerckx · Dec 18, 2007

Big Rick Rock said:
I know at least 2 guys who could NOT get their HRT clinics to prescribe Clomid. They would get scripts for Test and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - from rejuvenation clinics, but they were REFUSED a script for Clomid, the clinic people told them to stay away from Clomid and gave them a script for HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - instead.

it's not really on point. but my wife's reproductive endo said she and no one in her clinic would give her clomid for fertility except as an absolute last resort b/c of the sides...should have seen her face when i asked for a script for it

Big Rick Rock · Dec 18, 2007

eddymerckx said:
it's not really on point. but my wife's reproductive endo said she and no one in her clinic would give her clomid for fertility except as an absolute last resort b/c of the sides...should have seen her face when i asked for a script for it

Seem like Docs prefer to try other treatments first, before subjecting their patients to Clomid sides. I have heard the same thing from a good friend who is trying to get pregnant now. The drug seems to be really effective at making women ovulate, but I don't think is a Doc's first choice.

Advisor_x · Dec 18, 2007

Clomid for fertility, thing the right thing to do.....is go to the specialist.......HCG is the choice here in Mx ....

eddymerckx · Dec 18, 2007

Advisor_x said:
Clomid for fertility, thing the right thing to do.....is go to the specialist.......HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - is the choice here in Mx ....

actually, after i made the clomid comment the doc kinda figured there was more to the non-pregnancy issue and it may be me that needs drugs not my wife---so i get to give a sample of swimmers......while on sust 250 e/o/d and 500 equipoise...i should have kept my mouth shut--this is going to be a long week

needtogetaas · Dec 18, 2007

Now I got things to do. Have fun running in circles. Dermacrine and dermacrine sustain have and will work for many people. It has less sides and makes you feel better over all. Its clearly working for people and doing a better job then clomid or nolva for some not all. People use it in many different ways. What ever works best for them. The fact remains derma products do what they say they do. At least for almost every one who use them. I for one think you should at least use a product before you bash the hell out of it . When its working for almost every one. It just makes you look bad to start an assault on it. I love you guys have a nice night.

needtogetaas · Dec 18, 2007

blackpanther said:
Personally after using it 4 times for PCT - post cycle therapy - , I have had it with Clomid. The side effects are just too over the top. If there are valid alternatives to Clomid that have worked for others, why not give them a shot? I know I will the next time I am on PCT.

so you don't like clomid!!!

needtogetaas · Dec 18, 2007

So go ahead and pm me for product details and discounts. Hell I will hook all you good bros up nice.

needtogetarmy · Dec 18, 2007

needtogetaas said:
resveratrol
yes it dos make you blow big com shots and helps recovery
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/135/4/757
keeps you healthy
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w626021t68218138/
The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology says yes resveratrol has good SERM like effects.
also a good read on res
http://www.resvenox.com/aboutresvenox.html

How about Chrysin
hell even Wikipedia knows body builders use it for starters. Hmm what dos wika say they use it for. hmmm cool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysin. Though wika says Chrysin dos not raise test levels it dose clearly say it prevents the body from breaking down testosterone, and it reduces anxiety. It also says there is merit to the claim that it is a libido-increasing supplement.....
yes it raises Virility,erectile function,energy,sexual performance and libido.
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/109662002753723214
Chrysin effects on Testosterone and SHGB
http://ezinearticles.com/?Natural-W...sterone-Bioavailability-in-Athletes&id=178311
http://www.prostate90.com/Male Hormones and Aging LE.htm
http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/20/5/520
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-125834325.html

thats just some of whats in dermacrine sustain. I don't have all day to look up shit but on to the people that love derma now.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...macrine-perfect-winter-supplement-572147.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/question-about-dermacrine-574983.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/i-love-dermacrine-sustain-575848.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...n-pct-post-cycle-therapy-question-556915.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...t-got-my-dermacrine-575550-2.html#post7819804
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/don-t-know-if-s-dermacrine-575325.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/after-dermacrine-sustain-565742.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dermacrine-sustain-565351.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...-just-tried-dermacrine-sustain-563116-10.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/what-do-you-think-dermacrine-554438.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...um/8-weeks-out-feeling-incredible-574195.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...post-cycle-pct-post-cycle-therapy-546961.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ng-out-new-product-skeptical-zone-562534.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/finally-started-dermacrin-552686.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/noticable-effect-sustain-547572.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dermacrine-sustain-546151.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dermacrine-sustain-562602.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...m/my-results-w-dermacrine-sustain-557022.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...tain-made-my-balls-bigger-i-swear-569772.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/my-dermacrine-experience-541717.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/dermacrin-sustain-report-572336.html
lmao thats a whole lot of placebo
Any way one last cherry on the cake. Here is a test done before and 2 weeks after reg dermacrin keep in mind sustain is even better for pct.

Now I got things to do. Have fun running in circles. Dermacrine and dermacrine sustain have and will work for many people. It has less sides and makes you feel better over all. Its clearly working for people and doing a better job then clomid or nolva for some not all. People use it in many different ways. What ever works best for them. The fact remains derma products do what they say they do. At least for almost every one who use them. I for one think you should at least use a product before you bash the hell out of it . When its working for almost every one. It just makes you look bad to start an assault on it. I love you guys have a nice night.

Good post! That is what we all need to see. Gonna check this stuff out.

Thanks need2.

needtogetaas · Dec 18, 2007

The Old Vet said:
Good post! That is what we all need to see. Gonna check this stuff out.

Thanks need2.

Doing a search on the ingredents There is like so many studies and articles its not even funny. They go on for days and days. Hell you could read on the subject for the rest of your life if you wanted to. I will also keep reading as well.
Way to much to read in just one sitting.. In any event I have liked and still like what I see. I also like that people are using it with good results. I would like to also see pp chime in as he is pretty knowledgeable on the subject.

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