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Ala For Cutting An To Minimaze Fat Storage

Fener

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looking fom suggestions on how to take ala just to create a caloric deficit due to trasportation of glucose into bloodstream. I'm not interested in using it to mimic insulin for bulking wich could take to fat storage too. So for my pourpose wich is cutting, wich is the best way to take it (with what meals?how much)
 
Fener said:
looking fom suggestions on how to take ala just to create a caloric deficit due to trasportation of glucose into bloodstream. I'm not interested in using it to mimic insulin for bulking wich could take to fat storage too. So for my pourpose wich is cutting, wich is the best way to take it (with what meals?how much)

Fener,
I used ALA for cutting and it worked great! Stats: Jan 1rst 203lbs @ 12%bf now: 180lbs @4.7%bf.

I did ZERO cardio. That's right zip, zero, nada, zilch. You do have to create a small calorie deficit by dieting however. I took anywhere from 900mg to 2100mg ALA with each meal. The more carbs I had the more ALA I used.

I alternated between 1 or 2 low carb days, followed by 1 or 2 medium to high carb days. Even though I was eating an average of 300gm of carbs/day I was almost always in trace to moderate ketosis.

Careful taking ALA first thing in the morning, following a low carb day, because you *will* go into into hypoglycemia. Your glucose levels are naturally low in the morning; add low carbingthe day before to that and you'll dispose of almost all your blood glucose. On those days I had 150gm carbs from ultra fuel, first thing in the morning, and still stayed in ketosis! ALA is Amazing stuff..

Oh and more thing: Take the ALA first, followed by *immediately* stuffing your face. Otherwise at that dosage you will get the nastiest heartburn you've ever experienced!


rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
 
redsox

what exactly is ala? please get back to me im looking to lose my stomach what would u suggest? thanks!
 
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jzch169 said:
what exactly is ala? please get back to me im looking to lose my stomach what would u suggest? thanks!

Alpha Lipoic Acid.

1) I would suggest you reduce your daily caloric intake by about 500 calories. Just eliminate some night snack(s) that you're having or your favorite desert. You may need to reduce your carb intake as well.

2) Take about a gram of alpha lipoic acid with each meal. Taken the ALA JUST BEFORE you eat, otherwise it's major heartburn city.

3) Take 4-6 psyllum husk fiber capsules whenever you have a meal which has fat in it. The fiber will absorb the fat, and it will pass thru your system undigested.

4) Do weight training.

5) If you follow those steps, you'll find that cardio is optional

Rangerx83 (aka RockHard)
 
I took anywhere from 900mg to 2100mg ALA with each meal.

With each meal??? Or total for the day?? Thats a huge amount to take with each meal. I usualy take 200mg for moderate carb meals, and 400mg postworkout.
 
JG1 said:


With each meal??? Or total for the day?? Thats a huge amount to take with each meal. I usualy take 200mg for moderate carb meals, and 400mg postworkout.


i second that... that sounds to me like ALA overdose.. i'm taking 300mg before 2-3 meals and getting great results.. no need to overdose.
 
TraxZBT said:



i second that... that sounds to me like ALA overdose.. i'm taking 300mg before 2-3 meals and getting great results.. no need to overdose.


The lethal toxic dose is 30gms/day. I take 3-4 gms/day. The amount that you guys are taking does not give the same level of effect that a multigram daily gives. I was in full ketosis even on the days that I ate large amount of carbs. You will never see that with just taking 600mg/day. To me the proof is in the pudding. I used to take ALA at the dosage you did, and never managed to lose 17 lbs of fat in 1.5 months, just with moderate dieting and NO cardio.

Remember when creatine used to come in 500mg caps? And people took 2 or 3 caps and essentially nothing happened? Same thing. Until some one said let me try a damn teaspoon full of creatine, and the rest is history.

This has been my observation and experience on it. Your mileage may vary. I take enough ALA to get a moderate hypoglycemic state which when combined with weight training and moderate dieting is highly beneficial to fat loss.

Rangerx83 (AKA RockHard)
 
rangerx83 said:



The lethal toxic dose is 30gms/day. I take 3-4 gms/day. The amount that you guys are taking does not give the same level of effect that a multigram daily gives. I was in full ketosis even on the days that I ate large amount of carbs. You will never see that with just taking 600mg/day. To me the proof is in the pudding. I used to take ALA at the dosage you did, and never managed to lose 17 lbs of fat in 1.5 months, just with moderate dieting and NO cardio.

Remember when creatine used to come in 500mg caps? And people took 2 or 3 caps and essentially nothing happened? Same thing. Until some one said let me try a damn teaspoon full of creatine, and the rest is history.

This has been my observation and experience on it. Your mileage may vary. I take enough ALA to get a moderate hypoglycemic state which when combined with weight training and moderate dieting is highly beneficial to fat loss.

Rangerx83 (AKA RockHard)


what quantity caps were you using? I might try your approach towards doseages but I want to get a little more background about this (health wise). Keep us updated.
 
I've been taking ALA for the past few weeks, also with no cardio, and I am losing fat faster than I ever have before. I've been taking 300-600 mg per meal, for a total of about 2g per day, and its been awesome. My diet has been alright, though I do have a large carb meal after I lift, but the ALA definately helps with that.
 
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