ok.... i just wanted to let everyone know that my intentions when i joined up on this site was to complete my 12 week cycle of var, winny and clen. well, after my interactions with everyone and reading everyones FANTASTIC INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE, i wanted to reiderate that i am not doing any of the three. i dont judge anyone who have done them, i have tried them. i just feel that i want to see what i can do over the next 12 weeks the "hard way". i am looking at it like this, if i look good enough to step on that stage, then i will. and if i dont look good enough, i will just postpone until a time comes when i am comfortable doing it. i am ok with that, really! i want to enjoy this and not become neurotic and disenfranchised.