2nd Cycle, Var and Test Prop, Log

[Catman22]

Thanks for all the support and advice guys.
I have to say that based on my research, which was pretty in depth, I thought that jabbing EOD would be sufficient.
So I think I will stick with that for this cycle, plus Im not too fond of the idea of jabbing everyday!

I did a metabolic conditioning session last night and had some real problems with my back tightening up, I took some electrolytes, taurine and ALA before the session but the pain was pretty bad.
Has anyobe else had problems with their lower backs on prop / var or both together? If so how did you deal with it?

Strength today, so looking forward to some new PBs!!!

Cheers

 

[Dogfox]

Chart from isteroids



Injectable steroids:

Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
Steroid esters:

Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Isteroids? its all wrong. Easiest to prove would be..For example test cyp:
http://www.pfizer.com/files/products/uspi_depo_testosterone.pdf

^^^IM inj has a half life of around 8 days and thats according to pfizer.

http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/reprint/43/5/731.pdf

^^^6.6 days average in this study of 19 participants.


The above you posted even lists suspension as a 1 day half life. Thats just crazy - suspension having a total life of 48 hours would mean you could inj that EOD.

Anyway, OP can inject EOD but hed get better results from ED. But thats his choice and it appears hes already made it

 

[Catman22]

Thanks for your help mate, interesting.

I dont particularly want to change my routine and dosages now, but will certainly look into it for my next cycle.

Cheers

 

[Catman22]

Bump on the back pains?

 

[Catman22]

UPDATE:

The strength is still going up pretty well, every session I am either increasing the poundage or getting 2-3 more reps on the same weight out, so this is all good.

I did wake up last night with this lower back pain, I have had it for the last 2-3 days, it is like a dull ache on the right hand side. Feels like it could be kidnesy pain. I know it is probably back pumps, but seems to be worse in the
evenings. Has anyone else experienced this pain in the past?

I will be upping my taurine intake as well as my water intake and I will also buys ome cranberry juice too, hopefully this will deal with it. If anyone else has any advice on this pain please let me know.

Cheers

 

[Catman22]

Just taken my 1st glass of cranberry juice with 5g of taurine added.
Hopefully this will improve things.
If anyone has anymore advice or help I would be interested to hear it.
Anyone had these back problems?
Cheers

 

[Dogfox]

Just taken my 1st glass of cranberry juice with 5g of taurine added.
Hopefully this will improve things.
If anyone has anymore advice or help I would be interested to hear it.
Anyone had these back problems?
Cheers

make sure water intake is around 5 litres spread throughout the day

 

[428scj]

Has anybody else been on a cycle similar to this?
If so what sides if any did you get?
How were your results, and did you keep them?
Do you think my goals are unrealistic?

Cheers

I am doing a Test E/Var cycle at the moment and loving it. This is my first injectable cycle ever. I have found I have zero problems with gyno and have not used an AI as of yet. The size, strength and weight are through the roof for me. I have REALLY got to watch my diet or I will balloon up and get bulky and that is not what I want. The water weight came about 2 weeks in, the strength hit big time around 3.5 weeks. It has been uphill the whole way. This shit is GREAT!

I am sure you will have less water weight, if any, with the prop. Good luck. You will love this cycle.

Cycle:
Weeks 1-14 HG Test E 500 MG
Weeks 9-14 Var 100 MG Daily
HCGenerate 3 pills daily
2 Fish Oil tabs daily
3 Milk Thistle daily

 

[Catman22]

make sure water intake is around 5 litres spread throughout the day

Thanks mate, I have been drinking plenty, but to be honest i think I slipped up and didnt drink enough water for a few days straight, do you think this could have caused it?

If anyone has had similar problems, did they go away?

Cheers

 

[Dogfox]

perhaps the standing military, squats, and deads are also not doing you a favour in the back pump department. A split with a lot of spinal erector engagement will usually cause discomfort