12 Week Final Update: Me and the Young man I Trained

[skullcrushin22]

I'm guessing you put him on something like Anavar for 10 weeks since he didn't get big and puffy. Nice work though, regardless of what you did.

Dude your acting like he gained 20 lbs of muslce in 5 weeks or something. 12 weeks of busting your ass in the gym and eating perfectly can yield those results. Esp. when the kid had an atheltic build to start with and has great genetics.

 

[OMEGA]

Dude your acting like he gained 20 lbs of muslce in 5 weeks or something. 12 weeks of busting your ass in the gym and eating perfectly can yield those results. Esp. when the kid had an atheltic build to start with and has great genetics.

The main thing he had going for him was he was Very lean. His Genetics were actually not exceptional ESPECIALLY FOR CHEST.
His Upper back was pretty much the only group that had some modicum of development.

ps hello

 

[instant.muscle]

The main thing he had going for him was he was Very lean. His Genetics were actually not exceptional ESPECIALLY FOR CHEST.
His Upper back was pretty much the only group that had some modicum of development.

ps hello

ok omega if i buy ur book and dont like it can i send it back?

 

[nab12]

ok omega if i buy ur book and dont like it can i send it back?

ditto I want version 1.0 with all the typo's that way its cheaper

 

[OMEGA]

lol sure there will be typos I cant spell

 

[Inhibitor13]

The main thing he had going for him was he was Very lean. His Genetics were actually not exceptional ESPECIALLY FOR CHEST.
His Upper back was pretty much the only group that had some modicum of development.

ps hello

Thats why I wanted to know his chest routine pages back ! That was the first thing I noticed what changed !

 

[OMEGA]

its great, it will in there

Glad you noticed the chest.

For those that cant get the Chest to respond there is a way.

took me 7 years to figure it out

 

[OMEGA]

Wow some of the ideas that will be shared are for sure going to be POPULAR and UNPOPULAR

I skared lol

 

[instant.muscle]

when is this damn book commin out! lol, im holdin off my cycle and gonna c if i can really blast my chest

 

[OMEGA]

ugh this is taking longer then I thought

Its going to be good but very basic

 

[sshadoww]

Thank you Gentlemen

By the way:
The Transformation is a Radical as it appears

If you ever need another guinea pig I'm down

 

[OMEGA]

you know if the Mini E book goes well I will have time to help out.

 

[Clintro]

ETA of this book? we are all on edge give us a sample already lol.

 

[OMEGA]

December Sir.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Very nice transformation however we are not all so lucky to come into this game a beginner and have a vet take us under their wing and show us how to do everything the right way which is a lot of the frusterating part. No face pics what diff does it make if natural? That just leads to believe he was on the sauce or had a little boost but nontheless very nice transformation. I think we all wish we had somone like you to help usout when we first started or when we got confused. Hopefully the manual will simplify everything.

 

[OMEGA]

No face Pics because he has a career in LE

I think it will simplify things.

thanks

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Where is my program dude?

 

[nemesis 2027]

Outstanding Omega! That progress I would have killed for 30 years ago!

After so many years now I have tried many different routines based on beginners (back 31 years ago or so) and of course many modern advanced workouts that I am not all that sure about because they were put out there by people more advanced than I was. I am not genetically gifted, and like many young people in the 70's I overtrained and ate crappy protein and not enough proper food. I had the drive and enthusiasm, but no guidance. I made nice progress the first few years and stagnated to varying degrees after that. I have managed over the years to play with a few different routines, but I have not seen real life/real time results like you have shown.

I have settled down a bit in my life, the kids are nearly grown, and my enthusiasm is near what it was when I had no 'proper' knowledge at all. I can actually gain and loose weight more easily.. (well gaining is easier) I now understand proper nutrition, better training sense, and I think going back to the basics with some modern ideas, something like the routine you'll have outlined in your book could possibly break my semi-stagnant state. I also have some shoulder issues, but I can develop some work arounds, or maybe you'll have some ideas of your own. That kids delts were awesome.. It's worth a try, and something to look forward to.

 

[OMEGA]

Where is my program dude?

Its ready for you Sir.

 

[OMEGA]

Nemesis thanks!

The shoulder routine did NOT use heavy pressing so your going to enjoy it I think.

Glad you got your Fire Back to train, I know Exactly how you feel.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Yeh I can understand that OMEGA but shit what do I gotta do to get my own routine set up lol.

 

[OMEGA]

After December Will be HAPPY to help good bros out

till then sorry

 

[nemesis 2027]

After December Will be HAPPY to help good bros out

till then sorry

Hell, I've been a lot more patient than this nearly 30 years worth.. no problem.. Gives me time to prep for it..

The shoulder (teaser info) routine you hinted about is something I'm really looking forward too.

Don't laugh, I had a great gym night just thinking about something new coming..

 

[ProtienFiend]

What were his starting / ending height, weight, ~BF%, etc....

Lifts?

 

[OMEGA]

Hell, I've been a lot more patient than this nearly 30 years worth.. no problem.. Gives me time to prep for it..

The shoulder (teaser info) routine you hinted about is something I'm really looking forward too.

Don't laugh, I had a great gym night just thinking about something new coming..

no I think thats Cool and an Honor

I remember the first copy of Dorian Yates book, it was so different then others that , that alone made things exciting.

Hope what we offer will be well received.

 

[OMEGA]

What were his starting / ending height, weight, ~BF%, etc....

Lifts?

Unsure about his weight,
from day One I TOLD HIM not TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE SCALE only the look and illusion.

Body fat was Low, but nothing outlandish he had the base of a Novice Swimmer or track athlete.

Lifts were humble, though he could push weight if he had too the weight we used were medium for his stature.

 

[OMEGA]

Where is my program dude?

ding ding ding its ready

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Unsure about his weight,
from day One I TOLD HIM not TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE SCALE only the look and illusion.

Thats somethig I really need to focus on. Sometimes I look at the scale tooo much and let myelf get flustered but then ill wake up one morning and look in the mirror and you know how you get those times where you look and you KNOW something has changed but ur not quite sure what but you know somehow you notice some results. thats the best feeling...now only if i cold stop lookin at the scale lol.

 

[layinback]

The Mass Game, is like being on a hamster on a wheel its never enough.

You want to get just big enough in key places while maintaining your natural structure and also have a diet that is more human and sustainable and to create the illusion of Size

bingo.

 

[OMEGA]

The Mass and Power Game, is like being a Hamster on a wheel it is never enough.

Getting too strong is actually the worst thing you can do to yourself if you want your muscle bellies to look like a Bodybuilder, you may in fact institutionalize muscle imbalances.

You want to get just big enough and strong enough in key places while maintaining your natural structure and also have a diet that is more human and sustainable and to create the illusion of Demon Size.

 

[layinback]

The Mass and Power Game, is like being a Hamster on a wheel it is never enough.

Getting too strong is actually the worst thing you can do to yourself if you want your muscle bellies to look like a Bodybuilder, you may in fact institutionalize muscle imbalances.

You want to get just big enough and strong enough in key places while maintaining your natural structure and also have a diet that is more human and sustainable and to create the illusion of Demon Size.

i do a lot and i mean a lot of drop sets. i do a total of 4- 6 sets per bodypart to failure once a week. if you get a chance check out my new pics in my gallery. i have done one cycle in last 2 years. just finishing up an anavar only 10 weeks. i think with the right instruction and cycle i could be amazing. any advice would be cool

 

[OMEGA]

so you like some of the ideas?

The weight lifting board almost kicked my butt about 6 months ago when I said this very same thing

 

[layinback]

so you like some of the ideas?

The weight lifting board almost kicked my butt about 6 months ago when I said this very same thing

i am an iconoclast in most of my endeavors , i am used to ppl trying to kick my butt for my heretical ideologies. I KNOW YOU ARE RIGHT. that is why i anticipate your post. your dijointed style is maddening! lol. i want to know what you know. i am a proponent of low volume infrequent training. i stay away from power movements and the like. i am 6'4 240 the epitome of an ectomorph but my physique is very impressive in person. i am ready to take it to the next level and money is no concern to me, i own a sales co. and $$$ is of the essence. check out my pic and let me know what to do... i will do it. btw i have only done 7 cyces and 3 mini cycles over the course of 9 years and have never done more than 600 mg of aas combined per week. i respond very well to miniscule amounts

 

[OMEGA]

"your dijointed style is maddening!"



After December will ahve time to help good bros out

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Yeh i want help to. I dont understand the thing about getting too strong tho and you want your muscle bellies to look like a bodybuilder. You want to get just big enough and have a human diet and shit to make an illusion of demon size. Do you have any time to elaborate on that a little more as that post really confuses me.

I udnerstand some of it but most of it i dont lol. So if you have any time or if layin back knows what you mean and could simplify it or tell me in a little more detail of what it means that would be awesome. I think I am ectomorph too.

 

[stbizzle]

wow thoes results are amazing I don't have time to read this whole thread right now but I sure will later

I'd like to know what all he was doing

 

[layinback]

"your dijointed style is maddening!"



After December will ahve time to help good bros out

i misspelled DISJOINTED. i was half jokingly referring to your style of posting bits and pieces of your training philosophy. to illustrate, hybridtheory ( linkon park?) is saying, "i get some of it but what is he saying"? omega, you are the man. nuff said.

 

[layinback]

Yeh i want help to. I dont understand the thing about getting too strong tho and you want your muscle bellies to look like a bodybuilder. You want to get just big enough and have a human diet and shit to make an illusion of demon size. Do you have any time to elaborate on that a little more as that post really confuses me.

I udnerstand some of it but most of it i dont lol. So if you have any time or if layin back knows what you mean and could simplify it or tell me in a little more detail of what it means that would be awesome. I think I am ectomorph too.

omega's training philosophy is all about aesthetics. it is NOT bout, how much you bench and big "traps"

 

[layinback]

wow thoes results are amazing I don't have time to read this whole thread right now but I sure will later

I'd like to know what all he was doing

BOWFLEX and muscletech supps.

 

[xrsist]

BOWFLEX and muscletech supps.

dont say that in a public forum, now everyone will know

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Thanks Guys! and gal

From the get go I told the young man to NOT pay attention to the scale, or excessive strength and to only focus on the look and his diet and the Training itslef. The goal of getting bigger was achieved but the aesthetic was the primary goal.

Strength and Increases in body weight come by default in time.

I have 2 two brothers that are past Mr.Michigans and say almost word for word what you stated above. They say... "diet is the key to the kingdom, let the mirror be the judge not the scale, size and strength come fast when you eat, sleep, and train the RIGHT way."
Over 20 years of doing this and they both look awsome!

Also your point on NOT trianing like a powerlifter is a key point...
Most of the time the guys that pump the heavy weight are not the best looking in the gym.(fat gut, stumpy arms, no legs, and pressing 400 pounds! I say no thanks!)

Omega I believe you are right on the money!!!

Kick ass bro!

 

[jeb0177]

training hard, diet, rest & steroids that's all there is to it, I don't think there's nothing special about training jsut to be persistant and keep doing it. I will buy the book to get on a good diet and follow the directions to cut. some people are cut like this kid and that's why its easier for him to easily gain some visible muscle mass specially on some aas... why because his bf is super low... he looks awesome.. I would like to have that shredded look. gongrats on achievements OMEGA looking forward for december to buy the book. just my 2 cc's.

 

[ProtienFiend]

Also your point on NOT trianing like a powerlifter is a key point...
Most of the time the guys that pump the heavy weight are not the best looking in the gym.(fat gut, stumpy arms, no legs, and pressing 400 pounds! I say no thanks!)

I have to disagree with you bias. Powerlifter will look how they eat. Ive seen skinny ass dudes clean like twice their body weight and an average looking Joe deadlift weights id only dream of hitting.

Using heavy weight is key in some aspects, especially when cutting.

 

[sincere81oo0]

omega how will i be able to order this? i have the same build as this guy. broad and big shoulders small waist but chest lags.....

 

[jagerbombme]

where's the book?

 

[OMEGA]

where's the book?

it will be done by End of December
it will be a Mini-E-book

but I don't knwo how long it will take to transfer it to PDF and doall the bells and whistles for PR.

it will be ready for all of our Spring cycles

 

[OMEGA]

I have 2 two brothers that are past Mr.Michigans and say almost word for word what you stated above. They say... "diet is the key to the kingdom, let the mirror be the judge not the scale, size and strength come fast when you eat, sleep, and train the RIGHT way."
Over 20 years of doing this and they both look awsome!

Also your point on NOT trianing like a powerlifter is a key point...
Most of the time the guys that pump the heavy weight are not the best looking in the gym.(fat gut, stumpy arms, no legs, and pressing 400 pounds! I say no thanks!)

Omega I believe you are right on the money!!!

Kick ass bro!

Thankyou!

 

[OMEGA]

BTW

I will be training with the Same young man some time in the Spring hardcore again ( possible earlier)

This time we will take Pics in the same positions through each phase.

his results will double this next time.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Layinback yes this name is from linkin park. I agree with OMEGAS training philosophy. I incorporate it somewhat but I never really thought it was the best way until I see you guys talking about it and you guys obviously know what you are talking about.

There are a lot of guys in my gym that move more weight than me and look at me funny if I am using the cables for something or a machine but yet they all have big guts and are fat and just weird looking but they move a lot of weight thinking thats the key. I tend to move a little less weight and perform more iso movements than them but I also have the bodybuilder look not the powerlifter look and I believe it comes from that. However I do keep the power movements in my arsenal somewhat because I believe those help you induce some serious growth onto your frame.

It just funny how guys like us can move less weight but the way we move it and the iso movements we put in make us look bigger and thicker and more full. Its funny in a weird way haha but a lot of ppl dont catch onto it and thats ok.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Oh and one more thing about the illusion. I am a mix between an endo and mesomorph and I am 5'9"(not tall or short imo) and I am weighin about 185 give or take a few but yet ppl always tell me they are sure my scale is broken! And its not but they sit there and will tell me that there is no way that I weigh less than 200lbs. I am sure my height plays a role in that obviously but the fact is I incorporate some of your training philosopy so it def holds true in my mind. I aint no fuckin power lifter thats for damn sure.

 

[layinback]

Oh and one more thing about the illusion. I am a mix between an endo and mesomorph and I am 5'9"(not tall or short imo) and I am weighin about 185 give or take a few but yet ppl always tell me they are sure my scale is broken! And its not but they sit there and will tell me that there is no way that I weigh less than 200lbs. I am sure my height plays a role in that obviously but the fact is I incorporate some of your training philosopy so it def holds true in my mind. I aint no fuckin power lifter thats for damn sure.

it sounds like you are a mesomorph. i have seen your pics and you are prime for bodybuilding. you can avoid a lot of mistakes by listening to folks like omega. bb'ing and powerlifting are mutually exclusive. the only thing they have in common are weights. kinda like a formula one driver and a taxi cab driver, the only thing they have in common is the automobile.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Re: 12 Week Final Update: Perkele for you

There will be more pictures in time:

I am NO GURU nor anything Special, but the things I KNOW I am sure of, and this young man absorbed it like a Sponge.

I take my training Philosophies as serious as I do Formula Creation and Supplementation for www.AGXsports.com

I have replicated these results with other people and BEG you to listen to ONE thing:
" YOU do not have to lift like a power lifter to LOOK like a BODYBUILDER."

I am seriously considering writing a "how to manual" or Small book on these Philosophies if you guys want it.

Training is like Art and there is a way for ANYONE to achieve the pinnacle of themselves.

The Beginning:

6 Weeks in:

12 weeks NOW:

here is a nice pic I just got:
His shoulders are are wider but he kinda had to push them together in this pic in order to flex his chest.
I tell you he had VERY little chest development when we started;
He earned it, its NOT genetics:

How much cardio did he do each week? Was he on your supps? if this has been asked I am sorry.

 

[OMEGA]

. I would like to have that shredded look. gongrats on achievements OMEGA looking forward for december to buy the book. just my 2 cc's.

thanks!

 

[OMEGA]

omega's training philosophy is all about aesthetics. it is NOT bout, how much you bench and big "traps"

Correct!

people will have to unlearn the way they lift in ore to train our way

 

[OMEGA]

Re: 12 Week Final Update: Perkele for you

How much cardio did he do each week? Was he on your supps? if this has been asked I am sorry.

Hi Earn

He took all supps by us and 2 more

I wont name them in the Mini E-book or here because I don't want the appearance of Spammyness or an opportunity to market.

The training is not about that, its about the way to a Look and with the utmost respect for the training.

Abbreviated Cardio was a staple even those that hate it will be able to do it.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

it sounds like you are a mesomorph. i have seen your pics and you are prime for bodybuilding. you can avoid a lot of mistakes by listening to folks like omega. bb'ing and powerlifting are mutually exclusive. the only thing they have in common are weights. kinda like a formula one driver and a taxi cab driver, the only thing they have in common is the automobile.

Ding now the light bulb went off in my head after seeing this. I do squats with not very much weight compared to the other guys and for other excersizes its the same way but I incorporated your philosophy too and I brought in a stop watch so I could see how fast 30 secs goes by for resting after a ball busting set. I have had the best pumps this week that ive ever had to date and ive broken tons more sweat. My lunch wanted to come back up! which meant I was pushing myself further and further.

Lol funny that you mention about me being a mesomorph and being primed for bbing. I was approached by a trainer who started asking me about the poundages I use in conjunction with my size(given im not the biggest dude but compared to the other cats at the gym I use considerably less weight and have more of a bbing physique-ie. the V shape)

It was just funny how you said that and I was approached and they said that to me too. Makes me feel hella good and makes me wanna push myself harder and if I in fact do have a good body type for this I wanna use it to my advantage

Ok ill stop jackin the thread haha my bad.

 

[TimeToGrow]

Youre doing all of us a dis-service by not telling us what we should know.

This means I have to train the wrong way for like 6 more months well I wait for the book?

Why don't you give us the fundementals - I'll happily pay for it

 

[SuperOne]

Id like to know the supps used aswell.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Timetogrow basically his philosophy goes along with layinbacks. In their case and in mine 1+1 doesnt always =2. What I mean by that is you would think the ONLY way to induce muscular hypertrophy would be by using extremely heavy weights all the time which is not true. Yes bbers use heavy weight but compared to powerlifters it is sooo different. Basically you can get big and then cut up to help create an illusion of demon size as OMEGA says. Its really not hard to understand. It doesnt mean you are training wrong but its just another option and also doesnt make your joints shit the bed madd early.

Start doing a rep range of 6-10 vary the speed in which you do them but maintain damn good form. Throw in drop sets as well. Do negatives on certain excersizes to help bust a plateau. Do ball busting weight 1-2 weeks out of a 10 week training cycle then take a week off rather than lifting as heavy as you can 24/7.

 

[fpc4ever]

why are u guys buying into this bs? i don't care if i'm new here or not, but there is no substance to this entire post. some half assed pics of possibly the same guy talking about a book he might write. who cares, get to the point.

 

[Zuperman]

why are u guys buying into this bs? i don't care if i'm new here or not, but there is no substance to this entire post. some half assed pics of possibly the same guy talking about a book he might write. who cares, get to the point.

OMEGA isn't the same guy in the pics you fucken dumb ass!

 

[TimeToGrow]

Oh and for everyone who was asking if AAS were taken...

Do you know anyone who has ever managed to put on 10 lbs of lean muscle mass in 10 weeks. Most are luck to put 5 on in a year...

 

[OMEGA]

why are u guys buying into this bs? i don't care if i'm new here or not, but there is no substance to this entire post. some half assed pics of possibly the same guy talking about a book he might write. who cares, get to the point.

BS? nice first post

I was going to share freely or put in articles but was asked just before to just condense it in a Mini E-book which will be BETTER then any advice I can doll out now.

As far as the Pics PLEASE.........thy are pretty good, and if you dont like them Now then I can take NEW ones DATED that are more "professional" in the spring with the same Young man. Who will improve even more.

 

[OMEGA]

Oh and for everyone who was asking if anabolic androgenic steroids were taken...

Do you know anyone who has ever managed to put on 10 lbs of lean muscle mass in 10 weeks. Most are luck to put 5 on in a year...

I know lots of guys who can put on 10 pounds in 10 weeks ON or OFF if it was the first Growth phase ever, and DONE RIGHT.

Any time someone trains right the first time in a first growth phase you can push your self to a natural limit well above your current bodyweight till you hit a paltue

 

[Zuperman]

I know lots of guys who can put on 10 pounds in 10 weeks ON or OFF if it was the first Growth phase ever, and DONE RIGHT.

Any time someone trains right the first time in a first growth phase you can push your self to a natural limit well above your current bodyweight till you hit a paltue

i LOVE YOU IN A GOOD STRAIGHT WAY,

 

[holy ghost]

hes ripped but looks like a toothpick
its not hard to be that lean when youre 135lbs

but never the less good job omega

 

[Bridger]

Big or small, lean or not lean, juice or no juice. That kid made some very nice, undeniable progress and improvement. Im sure there are many here who dont make progress like that on juice.

Nice job omega.

 

[trickster6487]

OMEGA, could u PM me a sample of what your workouts were. i am looking for similar results of your young protege.

 

[fpc4ever]

ok, so i agree the sketchy pics appear that he made improvement, but you don't even include beginning and ending stats... nothing about his training, supplements, diet.... what's the point of this???

 

[ironclaw]

great job at coaching this young fellow, when are you going to share some of your "secrets" as far as what supplements you had him take.? I'm not sure, but is he natty in these last pics?

 

[SuperOne]

If you can, please PM me the supplements he used if you dont want to share it here.


Thanks.

 

[Zuperman]

Bump this!

 

[OMEGA]

i LOVE YOU IN A GOOD STRAIGHT WAY,

Nice

 

[OMEGA]

hes ripped but looks like a toothpick
its not hard to be that lean when youre 135lbs

but never the less good job omega

thanks bro


as I said I will back it up again come spring with either myself, the Kid, or another young guy.

 

[OMEGA]

Big or small, lean or not lean, juice or no juice. That kid made some very nice, undeniable progress and improvement. Im sure there are many here who dont make progress like that on juice.

Nice job omega.

thanks

 

[OMEGA]

OMEGA, could u PM me a sample of what your workouts were. i am looking for similar results of your young protege.

I will channel it all in to the Mini-E book

it will be better then any advice I can PM or doll out on forums

it will be basic though a good platform

 

[OMEGA]

ok, so i agree the sketchy pics appear that he made improvement, but you don't even include beginning and ending stats... nothing about his training, supplements, diet.... what's the point of this???

It is not about stats it about the Look. It is not about the scale its about where you add muscle. It is not about Power its how you do your reps and sets.

The way we do our reps and sets Shreds every bit of muscle development out of them.

I was asked by the market to put it in a Mini-Ebook so till then I cant just put it all out there.

 

[sincere81oo0]

no AAS huh? i have to say i respect that OMEGA. you did a great job bro. wish i had a trainer around like you to help me out. best of luck and let me know when you drop that guide. ill be first online

 

[needtogetarmy]

im not being funny with you omega but if he made those gains naturally then it makes your training all the more impressive, not sayin its not impressive if he was on steroids, id just like to no becasue then i can get a better perspective on it, thanks

I think it is obvious the kid was on gear.

Excellent progress nonetheless. Just like Omega says, training is key and he hit that nail on the head.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Damn I wish I had someone like OMEGA to help me out in real life. Id be a fuckin ripped giant.

 

[fpc4ever]

lol of course he was on gear... and the time period was probably more likely a year or so... this is just a tactic to hype up his e-book, so until that comes out no reason to talk about any of this since it contains nothing helpful.

 

[OMEGA]

your a bitter and accusatory person but I cant reach through your PC to convince you
so you have said what you had to say now move on FPC4EVER.......


over a year? wow thats sad if it takes you so long to change.

12 weeks , 12 weeks and that it.

To repeat the book was not an idea till the feedback was so overwhelming.

so like I said you said what you had to say now move on.........


If I was not confidant I would not say these results could not be replicated and THEY WILL come spring with dates and all the superficial markers you need.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Someguys are just mother fuckers no matter what. I bet he is pissed that he cannot make any kind of transformation even on 3g of gear a week. he has posted 5 times. I bet he believes we never landed on the moon too.

 

[skullcrushin22]

lol of course he was on gear... and the time period was probably more likely a year or so... this is just a tactic to hype up his e-book, so until that comes out no reason to talk about any of this since it contains nothing helpful.

Dude who the hell are you? Did you join this board just to be a dousche or what. Omega wasnt going to have an e book but everyone wanted him too. Pay attention before you open your mouth.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Yeh dude ur dumb. 5 garbage posts you dont know jack shit.

 

[Selene]

Excellent results thank you for sharing

 

[jagerbombme]

it will be done by End of December
it will be a Mini-E-book

but I don't knwo how long it will take to transfer it to PDF and doall the bells and whistles for PR.

it will be ready for all of our Spring cycles

december hehe, well, then by the time we read it and apply it, we should have made major changes by summer time

 

[OMEGA]

I am sorry to being elusive to some that ask

I promise the wait will be worth it.


I will see if can share at least SOME info here in the next week.

 

[layinback]

well omega, you are an iconoclast and there will always be nay-sayers, historically you are in good company. i have achieved a very nice physique without training 5,6 or 7 times a week. i am not a little guy, i am 6'4 weigh 240 lb. i have not used massive cycles of juice nor do i need massive weights. i am a white collar business man with a large penis and lots of money, i do not have to be MASSIVE and STRONG. i have studied martial arts for 30 years so i dont need size to intimidate people. not to say that all big guys have small penis's and want to intimidate people.,i am merely saying that i am interested in aesthetics, nothing more. your philosophy is not popular opinion. guess what? every single revolutionary thinker share one thing in common. initially their ideas were rejected and they were called fools and idiots! i appreciate your talent and input on the board. i anxiously await your E book.

 

[OMEGA]

Laying Back thanks for such kind words and everyone else for that matter.

My writing is a bit odd but where there is a room for error I will use charts or basic number format.

I expect the cutting idea, diet, and lifting "style" will not be received with open arms, but the results will speak for themselves

I eagerly await spring to duplicate the same results

 

[fpc4ever]

ok, prove to me that you can make this kind of transformation WITHOUT GEAR in 90 days and i will put up 5 grand. it's bullsheat, i feel like i'm watching a power 90x commercial.

 

[DJ_UFO]

lol of course he was on gear... and the time period was probably more likely a year or so... this is just a tactic to hype up his e-book, so until that comes out no reason to talk about any of this since it contains nothing helpful.

Post your pic, stats and history. I bet you're ugly.
And his idea of the e-book didn;t exist when the thread was created. The idea came out due to high demand from members for it.

 

[fpc4ever]

Of course there is a demand for it, there is nothing useful in this post. No training info, no diet, cycles, nothing. I'll be the first one to take pre and post Omega training pics and post them and will follow his guidelines exactly, but he has posted nothing and I doubt will by December either. You might not like me which is fine, but you have to agree that 90 nobody in here has made huge gains in 90 days natty and it's insulting to act like some revolutationary who has figured out the secret then not give any advice.

 

[Zuperman]

Of course there is a demand for it, there is nothing useful in this post. No training info, no diet, cycles, nothing. I'll be the first one to take pre and post Omega training pics and post them and will follow his guidelines exactly, but he has posted nothing and I doubt will by December either. You might not like me which is fine, but you have to agree that 90 nobody in here has made huge gains in 90 days natty and it's insulting to act like some revolutationary who has figured out the secret then not give any advice.

The kid in the picture is young, probably natural test levels are High, besides ...OMEGA didn't say that the young man was natural nor Juiced.
Even if he posts nothing at all, even after December, The pictures provide the drive for the rest of us to keep going. So lay off bro, he ain't even selling his ebook.

 

[skullcrushin22]

Of course there is a demand for it, there is nothing useful in this post. No training info, no diet, cycles, nothing. I'll be the first one to take pre and post Omega training pics and post them and will follow his guidelines exactly, but he has posted nothing and I doubt will by December either. You might not like me which is fine, but you have to agree that 90 nobody in here has made huge gains in 90 days natty and it's insulting to act like some revolutationary who has figured out the secret then not give any advice.

When you train properly and have a perfect diet for the first time in your life especially at that age that transformation is achievable. He didnt make HUGE gains I think omega said he gained 15 lbs or something like that. Which when I first started lifting properly I did also, and Im natty and still am. His whole idea is how to make your body look bigger than what it is and obv. its working because your acting like this dude gained 40 lbs of muscle in 90 days.

 

[OMEGA]

ok, prove to me that you can make this kind of transformation WITHOUT GEAR in 90 days and i will put up 5 grand. it's bullsheat, i feel like i'm watching a power 90x commercial.

Proof is already in the pudding, with the Kid
And we ARE training again in about 2 months and it will have All your LOVELY before, MID, and after pics with DATES.

the results peak for themselves

And After I go one more round with the Young Man posted

I will use another Fresh Client in Summer again with ALL the Lovely pics, and dates you need.

Move on now Please you said what you had to say..
and Actually the BURDEN is on YOU, in terms of saying we are full of it.


If you dont post respectfully you wont post in my threads.

 

[OMEGA]

Post your pic, stats and history. I bet you're ugly.
And his idea of the e-book didn;t exist when the thread was created. The idea came out due to high demand from members for it.

thanks DJ

 

[OMEGA]

90 days natty and it's insulting to act like some revolutationary who has figured out the secret then not give any advice.

Actually NO its not insulting, your own disbelief and negativity is your own way of thinking , that clouds YOU.

This training and results can done ON OR OFF. Which is WHY gear use is Irrelevant to this way of living and training.

Sorry but it IS a secret in a way...
and now that I have been asked to trasnfer it to paper Am happy to do it and Honored.

 

[OMEGA]

The kid in the picture is young, probably natural test levels are High, besides ...OMEGA didn't say that the young man was natural nor Juiced.
Even if he posts nothing at all, even after December, The pictures provide the drive for the rest of us to keep going. So lay off bro, he ain't even selling his ebook.

Thanks

 

[OMEGA]

When you train properly and have a perfect diet for the first time in your life especially at that age that transformation is achievable. He didnt make HUGE gains I think omega said he gained 15 lbs or something like that. Which when I first started lifting properly I did also, and Im natty and still am. His whole idea is how to make your body look bigger than what it is and obv. its working because your acting like this dude gained 40 lbs of muscle in 90 days.

He gained 10 Strategic pounds on a lean Frame.

And the training and where he Put the Muscle was Key ,
and which is WHY he looks like a bodybuilder WITHOUT lifting like a power lifter.

Our Lifting is a sustainable program and pattern of the strategic application of stress for Maximum Results EVERY TIME. ON or OFF.

The Lifting was Key
The Diet Was key
and WHERE the muscle was put is KEY


thanks Skull