WTH? White Man Wins NBA MVP?

[Spartacus]

maybe they will meet up in the finals

 

[wutangnomo]

Nash is a watered down (severely) John Stockton: fun to watch, throws some sick passes, but let's face it, he is only as good as his teammates.

Shaq dominates no matter who he plays with.

Forgot about this one.

Watered down? lmao Before Nash went to Phoenix, I bet most people couldn't name another single player on the Suns. lol

Lets see. Shaq had Kobe et al, and now he has one of the other best players in the league, Dwayne Wade.

Too funny.

 

[wutangnomo]

Shaq would have won had he not been injured and missed games.....Miami was the best team until he had to take some time off

Where did Kobe finish?

Kobe and the Lakers finishing where they did has more to do with the management executing good trades rather then the players that left. You can't compare it that way. Come on now, the Lakers got Lamar Odom (overrated), Caron Butler (who???), and who the heck was that third guy again for Shaq?? The fools should have gotten Dwayne Wade if they knew what they were doing.

You're comparing Mitch Kupchak/Jerry Buss to Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban obviously has more basketball sense.

 

[Spartacus]

Who would I rather have on my team? It would be Shaq simply because he is a center and that is the most difficult position to fill. Is he the most dominating player ever? Yes. However, the Heat can win without him (as they did when he was out with injury). The Suns without Nash are a team in disarray. And that's what the Most Valuable Player award is all about.

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nice analysis

 

[wootoom]

best thread ever

 

[ass_face]

If you'd been following the NBA season, you'd know that Nash was leading the MVP race from start to finish with Shaq slightly behind.

A couple of circumstances that helped Nash:

Suns finished with the best record.
Nash finished with assists record by a wide margin.
Suns won 60+ games after losing 50+ the previous season.
Shaq's stats are career lows, which is probably the main reason people didn't give him more votes.
DIV

Yep! Also, the Suns record with Nash out of the lineup was hideous. He was the difference maker. Funny thing is that this is basically the same team they had when Marbury was there. Goes to show no matter what team Marbury is on they lose (nets, suns, knicks, US olympic team)... because he is a fucking loser ball hog.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

If you'd been following the NBA season, you'd know that Nash was leading the MVP race from start to finish with Shaq slightly behind.

A couple of circumstances that helped Nash:

Suns finished with the best record.
Nash finished with assists record by a wide margin.
Suns won 60+ games after losing 50+ the previous season.
Shaq's stats are career lows, which is probably the main reason people didn't give him more votes.





DIV

I never said there wasn't a good case for Nash. However, Shaq is the dominant one. Look at how much harder his opponents have to work on defense when Shaq is in the lineup. He always draws a double team. Also, look what Shaq does on defense. Having the big oaf guarding the lane shuts down penetration. Some of the things Shaq brings to the game don't show up on the stats.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Forgot about this one.

Watered down? lmao Before Nash went to Phoenix, I bet most people couldn't name another single player on the Suns. lol

Lets see. Shaq had Kobe et al, and now he has one of the other best players in the league, Dwayne Wade.

Too funny.

Everybody knew about Stoudamire and Marion already. Giving Nash this award over Shaq discredits the award.

Look at the Heat last year, (non contenders, now a real championship contender) and the Lakers this year (no playoffs, after being an NBA finalist).

This is such a joke. No one is remotely more valuable to their team than Shaq.

 

[wutangnomo]

Everybody knew about Stoudamire and Marion already. Giving Nash this award over Shaq discredits the award.

Look at the Heat last year, (non contenders, now a real championship contender) and the Lakers this year (no playoffs, after being an NBA finalist).

This is such a joke. No one is remotely more valuable to their team than Shaq.

lol

Non contenders last season? Umm the Heat made it to the second round of the playoffs. Dwayne Wade led them. How is that non contenders last season?

Lakers being like shit this year to do with poor management. That and the fact that they changed like 75% of their roster. You think it's all Shaq? How about Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kareem Rush, Horace Grant, etc etc?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

You think it's all Shaq? How about Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kareem Rush, Horace Grant, etc etc?

Those guys are so old or so shitty they couldn't have won a college championship this year. UNC beats them by 10. The old guys suck now. The others are role players.

Yes, it was all about Shaq in LA, and it pains me to admit that with Kobe having been there too. And it's all about Shaq in MIA. It's hard to contemplate how Shaq's physical presence makes other teams change their game plan and how many shots he affects / makes tougher. Few people make adjustments for Steve Nash's defense.

I don't see how this was even a close vote, except if league peeps wanted the pretty white guy to win.