Faizakafez
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jh1 said:Dang, ur tough.
I'd say that it makes it easier, especially with the social akwardness of first dates, to have a few drinks... am I coward?![]()
yes or drunk whatever your prefer
jh1 said:Dang, ur tough.
I'd say that it makes it easier, especially with the social akwardness of first dates, to have a few drinks... am I coward?![]()
jh1 said:Dang, ur tough.
I'd say that it makes it easier, especially with the social akwardness of first dates, to have a few drinks... am I coward?![]()
sorry 
HumanTarget said:you look like you might be packing a little extra something...
cindylou said:Not at all.
I prefer to drink too.
Its just really brave to go on a first date with no drinks. That would def. be soemthing I would remember.
I should have said brave instead of less cowardly.
sorry
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too hairy.vixensghost said:lol...Yeah, a sharp wit and wise ass mouth.
Don't make me get the duct tape out on YOUR ass.....
HumanTarget said:too hairy.
wiping my ass is like trying to get peanut butter out of a shag carpet....vixensghost said:Like how hairy are you? Ten Indian blankets worth of weave?
HumanTarget said:wiping my ass is like trying to get peanut butter out of a shag carpet....
i take lots of showers.vixensghost said:LMAO!
Gross but funny!
ksharp01 said:I always felt the one that asked should be the one that pays
ksharp01 said:I always felt the one that asked should be the one that pays
cindylou said:Not at all.
I prefer to drink too.
Its just really brave to go on a first date with no drinks. That would def. be soemthing I would remember.
I should have said brave instead of less cowardly.
sorry
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A walk at the park and ice cream from Mr. Freeze has been my recent first date material.Scotsman said:I get what you're saying.
I like to take first dates to places without alcohol. Like for ice cream, to the zoo, etc.. That way you actually have to talk and it's easier to find common ground.
Cheers,
Scotsman
blueta2 said:look who the cat drug in....how ya doing ya old doll?

fistfullofsteel said:what the fuck retarded question is that? a guy pays for the first and the rest of the dates. he pays until the day he dies. forbid a woman did something for a guy these days. the world might come to an end.
cindylou said:u are right
I dont demand the type of equality and fairness that lots of women demand these days.
I dont mind being taken care of and even being submissive if the guy is the right guy.
so a guy paying on the first date is a good sign to me. Him asking me to pay would raise my eyebrows about him not filling the tradtional role that I like in a man.
But if I was one of those gals who was hell bent on equality and likes to run the show, well then hell yeah, she should pay and not expect the guy to pay.
Totally understand a guy not wanting to be expected to pay just as I dont want to be expected to do his laundry.![]()
javaguru said:A walk at the park and ice cream from Mr. Freeze has been my recent first date material.
javaguru said:I guess all the feminist rhetoric about equality goes out the door when a chick can get something for free.
blueta2 said:ummm, no! I would not want a man to expect to pay. I don't want the guy to think I owe him from the first date, I would pay my share until I knew this would be a guy I would want to date again.
Mind you, Cmarc paid for my drinks when we first went out. But that could be b/c he wanted to get me drunk ;-)

yonkers weights said:I hope I am the right guy....
LOL
BIKINIMOM said:K now let's turn the tables... shall we?
It's no secret that I wouldn't date a man if he was financially succesfull so now then, if you were that guy (that wanted to date me in kind LOL) what would YOU DO if I told you that I would not accept a store-bought birthday present and NO, you could not put cash/check in an envelope for the gift either.
Ya'll would be shocked as to how many men flocked this little test up. The one guy who *got it*... well I married him.
Y_lifter said:If a Woman has the 100% expectation that they are going to be treated to a meal etc simply because they are a Woman and he is the Man..
Don't bitch if he treats you like property later on..
BIKINIMOM said:That ain't antiquated - that is just how it is. No man will EVER appreciate a woman that *threw herself at him* (and I am NOT talking about sex) or immasculated him by not allowing him to be the man.
heatherrae said:If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.
If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.
Is that any different?
If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.
I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.

heatherrae said:If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.
If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.
Is that any different?
If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.
I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.
Yeah, that would get expensive...lol.Faizakafez said:oh really?![]()
Yeah, I would agree with that.RottenWillow said:Regarding of sex or sexual orientation, I think it's an implied social contract that the asker pays for a romantic date. If/when the relationship becomes a steady thing though, I think the askee needs to start kicking in with the fundage. In the case of my fiance and I, I started paying at least part of my way after about 3 months when I realized this was something special.
RottenWillow said:Regarding of sex or sexual orientation, I think it's an implied social contract that the asker pays for a romantic date. If/when the relationship becomes a steady thing though, I think the askee needs to start kicking in with the fundage. In the case of my fiance and I, I started paying at least part of my way after about 3 months when I realized this was something special.
I thought you did not live in the 60's...you want all the perks of the old days but nothing to do with being a women like women used to be...thats some funny fucking shit...lmfaoheatherrae said:I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor
Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.
I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.
So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.
When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!
If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.
Faizakafez said:
velvett said:I have totally misunderstood what you were trying say ^^^
... so bear with me..
Are you separating "first impression" and "being themselves" like they are two different ways of behaving?
If you are - that is (IMHO) the leading reason why relationships fail.
If you can't be who you are and have to put on a fake persona to get a mate - you will surely lose that person once they figure out you're a fraud.
That said - if being yourself means you can't be taken in public without embarrassing someone then that a whole different problem.
thank you...they want it both ways...they want there cake and to eat it to..enough said.rnch said:some of these responses slay me.
ya'll ever heard of ERA?
you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways...![]()
It's just a matter of common courtesy that when you invite someone somewhere, you should pay.rnch said:some of these responses slay me.
ya'll ever heard of ERA?
you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways...![]()
and so it should be..you use less bitches....j/kheatherrae said:It's just a matter of common courtesy that when you invite someone somewhere, you should pay.
As far as the equal rights are concerned, more than 90% of americas most wealthy according to Forbes are MEN. Most of Congress are men. Most CEO's and CFO's of fortune 500 companies are MEN. Equality is far from present in the United States. The Old Boy's Club is alive and well.

lol... i don't mind a guy using coupons. I'll even try to find them and cut them out.gotmilk said:I'd prefer to pay myself just so you cannot see the 2 for 1 bill when it comes
its all gos back to..
you pay for pussy one way or another....right right.lol
you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways...
I only read the first post not the entire thread. I can only guess that this thread went very well with almost no disagreements or ridicules or derogatory statements at all.\heatherrae said:I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor
Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.
I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.
So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.
When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!
If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.
the thread really didn't get ugly.Smurfy said:I only read the first post not the entire thread. I can only guess that this thread went very well with almost no disagreements or ridicules or derogatory statements at all.\
but heather I have to sy that IMO, it was your fault for even wearing a $500 dress if you didnt really know where you were going. also, why feel bad about being dressed up and in a "burger joint"? who cares? surely no one but you. why would you feel like a fool when you look like a million bucks? fuck if I'm lookin good I dont give a crap where I am, I feel good about myself.
anyway, i wouldnt totally count someone out if they didnt pay on the first date, in fact first date I always feel uncomfortable having the guy pay for me since we dont really know each other yet. i feel bad for having someone else pay in a situation like that. i ALWAYS offer to pay at least my own portion of the bill because honestly it makes me feel more comfortable and less like Im being a money grubber. yeah it's just my own weird idiosyncracies. i dont really feel comfortable with anyone paying or buying me stuff until or unless we're really an exclusive couple. and even then it's totally reciprocal.
heatherrae said:I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor
Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.
I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.
So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.
When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!
If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.
my dad would never in a million years allow me to pay.heatherrae said:If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.
If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.
Is that any different?
If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.
I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.
Smurfy said:my dad would never in a million years allow me to pay.
how did you come to meet him? how did you know him in the first place? maybe he thought you were more casual than you really were?heatherrae said:the thread really didn't get ugly.
When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.
Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.
heatherrae said:the thread really didn't get ugly.
When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.
Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.
Or maybe a pub, too. It doesnt necessarily means an exclusive restaurant IMO. But thats just mejd_uk said:i lol at such bullshit social 'rules'. Such women are dumb.
heatherrae said:the thread really didn't get ugly.
When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.
Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.
jd_uk said:Yeah? Well think again.
My gf is just as giving as me and i love and appreciate that so much more than i would of a woman who expected to be paid for. lol at 'immasculated'.
I just wont to know when grumpy is taking me out...BIKINIMOM said:She is YOUR gf. Talk to me when she is your wife.
Who am I to put down what works for you and your gf?
So dont down what works for me and MY HUSBAND.![]()
needtogetaas said:thank you...they want it both ways...they want there cake and to eat it to..enough said.
look we can go out ant time because I know grump is fitting the bill.lol I wish I would have a night with you guys.BIKINIMOM said:LOL Who said that I wanted it both ways.
Leave that to the confused bitchy women. My standards are clearly defined and I kept weeding through perspective date/mates till WE BOTH found what it was that we were looking for.
needtogetaas said:you got fucked my your wife and here friend..thats all that matters now bro...
so any way when am I going to meet you and your girl...ill bang her btw.
needtogetaas said:look we can go out ant time because I know grump is fitting the bill.lol I wish I would have a night with you guys.
x10 motherfucker!jon79 said:lets kill this mother fucker.......
how dare he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
burgers and he pays!!!!!!!!
wtf is wrong with this guy
omfg i cant even eat im so pissed.....
what a pussy
he is prolly geigh
i bet so
cheap son of a bitch
where does this fucker get off
did he let u order a milkshake
you should cut his weiner off
i guess he's out
I didn't even return his phone calls after that.bw1 said:Did you bang him?
I know we would!!!!!BIKINIMOM said:I bet we would have A GREAT TIME!!!![]()
nefertiti said:I'm all over the place on this...I've typed out five or six responses but never posted.
A couple of points -
1) I always offer to pay part of the bill, either by word or gesture (reaching for the bill, reaching for my bag, etc), but I've never had a guy actually let me. I don't think I'd be bothered by it, though. It feels like the traditional, courteous thing to do, however, if he is the one who invited the girl out on a date. If I ever invite someone to do something with me, friend or boyfriend, I've always paid for it (like buying concert tickets, etc). On a first date, though, this would probably not make a difference to me one way or another but I might take it as a signal that he wasn't interested because he was ending things the way I'd end dinner with friends. Mulling over who owes what. But lack of a second date wouldn't be because I didn't have interest. I'd assume HE didn't.
2) for the record, I'm no feminist. I think there's a certain comfort level in traditional gender roles, and I keep up my end of that. My work is a contradiction on the surface, but it all falls in line if you know me well enough to know that I only enjoy doing the work because it allows me to take care of my family. I couldn't care less about the glass ceiling because I'll be gone and retired from finance and starting my own businesses before I ever hit it. Let the people who want to live their lives at the office and miss their kids baseball games have the big desk.![]()
It took you this long to figure out HR makes bad decisions when it comes to men....Phaded said:lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..

BIKINIMOM said:She is YOUR gf. Talk to me when she is your wife.
Who am I to put down what works for you and your gf?
So dont down what works for me and MY HUSBAND.![]()
cindylou said:yeah. Its never happened before but if it did ; I would see it as a sign of a LOSER.
Sorry guys.
kano said:If a women ask you out on a date should she pay the tab?
rudeboyja said:Best line I heard from a female friend. She actually told this to her girl I was trying to play around with. "He has deep pockets but very short arms." I think any money talk can kill any sexual chemstry when you are hanging out with someone in the beginning.

foreigngirl said:dinner and drinks can be going at "Buffalo Wild Wings" tooOr maybe a pub, too. It doesnt necessarily means an exclusive restaurant IMO. But thats just me
javaguru said:It took you this long to figure out HR makes bad decisions when it comes to men....![]()
Yeah, even the waitress commented with something like, "wow, are you going somewhere after here?" LOL.Phaded said:lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..
lol...well, if you are married to the girl, it doesnt matter who pays, right? It comes out of the same budgetPhaded said:lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..

heatherrae said:Yeah, even the waitress commented with something like, "wow, are you going somewhere after here?" LOL.
If I would have been the bitch that some people think I am, I would not have gone along with it.
One of the the things that I found the funniest is that he said "I'll get it this time. You can get it next time." What do you want to bet next time he would have decided it was time for surf and turf and a bottle of champagne? Cheap bastard! lol.
I would have politely paid my way, but I would have probably thought he was stingy and unromantic and not seen him again, unless he was so stellar that I just had to figure him out.jackangel said:christ's sake...pics of you in the BCBG dress.
love nef's responses in this thread.
although i won't knock someone for feeling one way or attitude is better than another, there's still no way to properly justify or rationalize these 'shoulds'.
hr, the issue with this story, it seems, is that the guy was a complete douchebucket. if he had dressed well, had a good personality, made great conversation, and treated you well otherwise, but for his own reason (perhaps on some kind of principle) asked you to pay your share...you might have agreed and seen him again, no?
i'm not saying you'd feel differently on the issue, but you would probably feel differently about him.
Aren't you Hindu????jackangel said:lol
i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.
I wish I were kidding. LOL. What a douchebag he was.bw1 said:You have got to be fucking kidding me
heatherrae said:I wish I were kidding. LOL. What a douchebag he was.
cindylou said:I like going to Buffalo's. Thats a great date!
He got himself a double thick vanilla milkshake. I just ordered a burger and a diet coke and then promptly ended the date after the meal was eaten...lol.Faizakafez said:was there dessert involve in this extravagant evening?
possible ice-cream/hotfudge/cookies?
mmm dessert!!
start baking
if not
doode is total douche!
heatherrae said:He got himself a double thick vanilla milkshake. I just ordered a burger and a diet coke and then promptly ended the date after the meal was eaten...lol.
jackangel said:lol
i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.
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