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Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second date?

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jh1 said:
Dang, ur tough.

I'd say that it makes it easier, especially with the social akwardness of first dates, to have a few drinks... am I coward? :worried:


Not at all.

I prefer to drink too.

Its just really brave to go on a first date with no drinks. That would def. be soemthing I would remember.

I should have said brave instead of less cowardly.

:heart: sorry :heart:
 
cindylou said:
Not at all.

I prefer to drink too.

Its just really brave to go on a first date with no drinks. That would def. be soemthing I would remember.

I should have said brave instead of less cowardly.

:heart: sorry :heart:


Okay. So Ice-Cream & cookies on a night under the stars it is... no alcohol.


When?
 
cindylou said:
Not at all.

I prefer to drink too.

Its just really brave to go on a first date with no drinks. That would def. be soemthing I would remember.

I should have said brave instead of less cowardly.

:heart: sorry :heart:

I get what you're saying.

I like to take first dates to places without alcohol. Like for ice cream, to the zoo, etc.. That way you actually have to talk and it's easier to find common ground.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
what the fuck retarded question is that? a guy pays for the first and the rest of the dates. he pays until the day he dies. forbid a woman did something for a guy these days. the world might come to an end.
 
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Scotsman said:
I get what you're saying.

I like to take first dates to places without alcohol. Like for ice cream, to the zoo, etc.. That way you actually have to talk and it's easier to find common ground.

Cheers,
Scotsman
A walk at the park and ice cream from Mr. Freeze has been my recent first date material.
 
fistfullofsteel said:
what the fuck retarded question is that? a guy pays for the first and the rest of the dates. he pays until the day he dies. forbid a woman did something for a guy these days. the world might come to an end.


u are right

I dont demand the type of equality and fairness that lots of women demand these days.

I dont mind being taken care of and even being submissive if the guy is the right guy.

so a guy paying on the first date is a good sign to me. Him asking me to pay would raise my eyebrows about him not filling the tradtional role that I like in a man.

But if I was one of those gals who was hell bent on equality and likes to run the show, well then hell yeah, she should pay and not expect the guy to pay.

Totally understand a guy not wanting to be expected to pay just as I dont want to be expected to do his laundry. :)
 
I hope I am the right guy....
LOL


cindylou said:
u are right

I dont demand the type of equality and fairness that lots of women demand these days.

I dont mind being taken care of and even being submissive if the guy is the right guy.

so a guy paying on the first date is a good sign to me. Him asking me to pay would raise my eyebrows about him not filling the tradtional role that I like in a man.

But if I was one of those gals who was hell bent on equality and likes to run the show, well then hell yeah, she should pay and not expect the guy to pay.

Totally understand a guy not wanting to be expected to pay just as I dont want to be expected to do his laundry. :)
 
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javaguru said:
A walk at the park and ice cream from Mr. Freeze has been my recent first date material.


you probably never heard from her again. good date though.
 
javaguru said:
I guess all the feminist rhetoric about equality goes out the door when a chick can get something for free.

You will NEVER hear me say that the sexes are equal. They are not now nor will they ever be. But they are designe (I believe) to work together side by side, synergistically. Who plays what role though, for the most part should be left up to the individuals in the relationship.

Any guy who chose to ask me out always knew what was up so there were no surprizes later on. As I said, time is our most precious commodity. I don't like to have my time wasted so why should I not respect other peoples' time in kind?
 
blueta2 said:
ummm, no! I would not want a man to expect to pay. I don't want the guy to think I owe him from the first date, I would pay my share until I knew this would be a guy I would want to date again.
Mind you, Cmarc paid for my drinks when we first went out. But that could be b/c he wanted to get me drunk ;-)

Silly woman... But can you loan me a few bucks for the bus, I left my wallet at home...... Women should NEVER pay anything... Just sayin. Do I have to learn you everything?


Damn didn't know the old lady was on top of me here...
:santa:
 
K now let's turn the tables... shall we?

It's no secret that I wouldn't date a man if he was financially succesfull so now then, if you were that guy (that wanted to date me in kind LOL) what would YOU DO if I told you that I would not accept a store-bought birthday present and NO, you could not put cash/check in an envelope for the gift either.

Ya'll would be shocked as to how many men flocked this little test up. The one guy who *got it*... well I married him.
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
K now let's turn the tables... shall we?

It's no secret that I wouldn't date a man if he was financially succesfull so now then, if you were that guy (that wanted to date me in kind LOL) what would YOU DO if I told you that I would not accept a store-bought birthday present and NO, you could not put cash/check in an envelope for the gift either.

Ya'll would be shocked as to how many men flocked this little test up. The one guy who *got it*... well I married him.

Best response I ever got from a girl was when I gave her a coupon for a lap dance from me anywhere/anytime.
 
Y_lifter said:
If a Woman has the 100% expectation that they are going to be treated to a meal etc simply because they are a Woman and he is the Man..

Don't bitch if he treats you like property later on..

Exactly. Load of bs. Were i to go on a date now i would probably offer to pay but that is just the way i am generally with anyone. If a woman expected me to pay then chances are i wouldn't be impressed. Like i said, i laugh at 'ladies' like this. Nobody should expect anything.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
That ain't antiquated - that is just how it is. No man will EVER appreciate a woman that *threw herself at him* (and I am NOT talking about sex) or immasculated him by not allowing him to be the man.

Yeah? Well think again.

My gf is just as giving as me and i love and appreciate that so much more than i would of a woman who expected to be paid for. lol at 'immasculated'.
 
If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.

If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.

Is that any different?

If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.

I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.
 
heatherrae said:
If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.

If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.

Is that any different?

If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.

I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.

oh really? :evil:
 
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heatherrae said:
If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.

If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.

Is that any different?

If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.

I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.

You're right about that as much as I hate to say it. If someone extends the invite it should be on their tab.

If you ask a girl out you should take care of everything.
 
Regarding of sex or sexual orientation, I think it's an implied social contract that the asker pays for a romantic date. If/when the relationship becomes a steady thing though, I think the askee needs to start kicking in with the fundage. In the case of my fiance and I, I started paying at least part of my way after about 3 months when I realized this was something special.
 
RottenWillow said:
Regarding of sex or sexual orientation, I think it's an implied social contract that the asker pays for a romantic date. If/when the relationship becomes a steady thing though, I think the askee needs to start kicking in with the fundage. In the case of my fiance and I, I started paying at least part of my way after about 3 months when I realized this was something special.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
 
RottenWillow said:
Regarding of sex or sexual orientation, I think it's an implied social contract that the asker pays for a romantic date. If/when the relationship becomes a steady thing though, I think the askee needs to start kicking in with the fundage. In the case of my fiance and I, I started paying at least part of my way after about 3 months when I realized this was something special.


That's about how long it'd take me to accept it.
 
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heatherrae said:
I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor

Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.

I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.

So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.

When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!

If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.
I thought you did not live in the 60's...you want all the perks of the old days but nothing to do with being a women like women used to be...thats some funny fucking shit...lmfao
 
Best line I heard from a female friend. She actually told this to her girl I was trying to play around with. "He has deep pockets but very short arms." I think any money talk can kill any sexual chemstry when you are hanging out with someone in the beginning.
 
some of these responses slay me.

ya'll ever heard of ERA?

you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways... :rolleyes:
 
velvett said:
I have totally misunderstood what you were trying say ^^^
... so bear with me..

Are you separating "first impression" and "being themselves" like they are two different ways of behaving?

If you are - that is (IMHO) the leading reason why relationships fail.

If you can't be who you are and have to put on a fake persona to get a mate - you will surely lose that person once they figure out you're a fraud.

That said - if being yourself means you can't be taken in public without embarrassing someone then that a whole different problem.

By first impression, avoid first date faux pas and ask how to dress, casual or glam, gym gear (I have trained with someone as a first date :))

I guess it is because of my job and training so much, I often don't bother with makeup or dressing up all the time.

Good first impression, scrub up nice!

There will be enough of those 'couple bubble' nights in in slobby clothing with a DVD for your significant other to get to know the 'real you' :)

x
x
x

T
 
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rnch said:
some of these responses slay me.

ya'll ever heard of ERA?

you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways... :rolleyes:
thank you...they want it both ways...they want there cake and to eat it to..enough said.
 
rnch said:
some of these responses slay me.

ya'll ever heard of ERA?

you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways... :rolleyes:
It's just a matter of common courtesy that when you invite someone somewhere, you should pay.


As far as the equal rights are concerned, more than 90% of americas most wealthy according to Forbes are MEN. Most of Congress are men. Most CEO's and CFO's of fortune 500 companies are MEN. Equality is far from present in the United States. The Old Boy's Club is alive and well.
 
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heatherrae said:
It's just a matter of common courtesy that when you invite someone somewhere, you should pay.


As far as the equal rights are concerned, more than 90% of americas most wealthy according to Forbes are MEN. Most of Congress are men. Most CEO's and CFO's of fortune 500 companies are MEN. Equality is far from present in the United States. The Old Boy's Club is alive and well.
and so it should be..you use less bitches....j/k
 
I'm all over the place on this...I've typed out five or six responses but never posted.

A couple of points -

1) I always offer to pay part of the bill, either by word or gesture (reaching for the bill, reaching for my bag, etc), but I've never had a guy actually let me. I don't think I'd be bothered by it, though. It feels like the traditional, courteous thing to do, however, if he is the one who invited the girl out on a date. If I ever invite someone to do something with me, friend or boyfriend, I've always paid for it (like buying concert tickets, etc). On a first date, though, this would probably not make a difference to me one way or another but I might take it as a signal that he wasn't interested because he was ending things the way I'd end dinner with friends. Mulling over who owes what. But lack of a second date wouldn't be because I didn't have interest. I'd assume HE didn't.

2) for the record, I'm no feminist. I think there's a certain comfort level in traditional gender roles, and I keep up my end of that. My work is a contradiction on the surface, but it all falls in line if you know me well enough to know that I only enjoy doing the work because it allows me to take care of my family. I couldn't care less about the glass ceiling because I'll be gone and retired from finance and starting my own businesses before I ever hit it. Let the people who want to live their lives at the office and miss their kids baseball games have the big desk. :whatever:
 
gotmilk said:
I'd prefer to pay myself just so you cannot see the 2 for 1 bill when it comes
lol... i don't mind a guy using coupons. I'll even try to find them and cut them out.
 
its all gos back to..
you pay for pussy one way or another....right right.lol

you gals demand equal salaries in the work place, equality in job duties and status, then still try to foist off 50 year old dating practices on guys who got passed over for promotion because managment "need to put a woman in the slot"....ya'll want it all, ya'll want it both ways...



both of these are so true.
I will always pay, but to hear that it's expected of me is BS.
 
heatherrae said:
I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor

Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.

I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.

So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.

When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!

If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.
I only read the first post not the entire thread. I can only guess that this thread went very well with almost no disagreements or ridicules or derogatory statements at all.\

but heather I have to sy that IMO, it was your fault for even wearing a $500 dress if you didnt really know where you were going. also, why feel bad about being dressed up and in a "burger joint"? who cares? surely no one but you. why would you feel like a fool when you look like a million bucks? fuck if I'm lookin good I dont give a crap where I am, I feel good about myself.

anyway, i wouldnt totally count someone out if they didnt pay on the first date, in fact first date I always feel uncomfortable having the guy pay for me since we dont really know each other yet. i feel bad for having someone else pay in a situation like that. i ALWAYS offer to pay at least my own portion of the bill because honestly it makes me feel more comfortable and less like Im being a money grubber. yeah it's just my own weird idiosyncracies. i dont really feel comfortable with anyone paying or buying me stuff until or unless we're really an exclusive couple. and even then it's totally reciprocal.
 
Smurfy said:
I only read the first post not the entire thread. I can only guess that this thread went very well with almost no disagreements or ridicules or derogatory statements at all.\

but heather I have to sy that IMO, it was your fault for even wearing a $500 dress if you didnt really know where you were going. also, why feel bad about being dressed up and in a "burger joint"? who cares? surely no one but you. why would you feel like a fool when you look like a million bucks? fuck if I'm lookin good I dont give a crap where I am, I feel good about myself.

anyway, i wouldnt totally count someone out if they didnt pay on the first date, in fact first date I always feel uncomfortable having the guy pay for me since we dont really know each other yet. i feel bad for having someone else pay in a situation like that. i ALWAYS offer to pay at least my own portion of the bill because honestly it makes me feel more comfortable and less like Im being a money grubber. yeah it's just my own weird idiosyncracies. i dont really feel comfortable with anyone paying or buying me stuff until or unless we're really an exclusive couple. and even then it's totally reciprocal.
the thread really didn't get ugly.

When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.

Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.
 
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heatherrae said:
I saw this article today on the net: http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/WhoPays.aspx#pageTopAchor

Personally, if a guy does not pay on the first date, he is history with me. I've actually never had that happen, but I had close to it once.

I went out on a first date with a guy. He asked me to "dinner and drinks" so I wore a nice dress. He shows up in jeans and a sloppy looking shirt. STRIKE ONE.

So, he asks what is around where I live. I took him to the square where there was a nice Italian restaraunt, indian restaraunt, etc. He points to Johnny Rockets (a 50's burger diner) and asks about it. I tell him and he says he would love a burger. So, I'm a good sport, even though I look like a fool in this burger diner wearing a $500 BCBG dress and nice heels. STRIKE TWO.

When the check comes, he said "I'll get it this time, and you can get it next time." STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT!

If a guy wants to go dutch, I take it as a personal insult, like I'm not worthy in his eyes of being treated like gf material. Srew that.

if the girl has a TOTAL BLAST being with you, has fun, you make her happy, you're physically attractive to her - $14 means nothing.

most women wind up paying for themselves and won't let me pay for them. like they wanna impress me or something. hey, i'm not gonna fight it :)

r
 
heatherrae said:
If I asked my father out for lunch, I wouldn't make him pay for it.

If I asked my grandma to go out for a movie, I would pay.

Is that any different?

If asked the man out on the date, I would pay.

I just don't ask men out on dates...lol.
my dad would never in a million years allow me to pay.
 
heatherrae said:
the thread really didn't get ugly.

When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.

Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.
how did you come to meet him? how did you know him in the first place? maybe he thought you were more casual than you really were?

i see what you're saying but for me that kind of stuff is just not a deal breaker. i assume people respect me by showing it in other ways I guess.
 
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heatherrae said:
the thread really didn't get ugly.

When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.

Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.

dinner and drinks can be going at "Buffalo Wild Wings" too :lmao: Or maybe a pub, too. It doesnt necessarily means an exclusive restaurant IMO. But thats just me
 
jd_uk said:
i lol at such bullshit social 'rules'. Such women are dumb.

See therein lies your error. Not a social rule at all, but MY RULE. A man knows this up front. If he has an issue with it, we don't go out and I won't shed a tear.

So you were saying?
 
heatherrae said:
the thread really didn't get ugly.

When a guy suggests 9 o clock "dinner and drinks" I assume that a dress is appropriate. Had he said "let's grab a quick bite" I would have asked what he was going to wear. My dating experience has always been that "dinner and drinks usually means a little better than fast food. His lack of care in his appearance was a message to me that he did not value the date or my time.

Plain and simple, he was a socially inept turn off, IMO.

Did you bang him?
 
jd_uk said:
Yeah? Well think again.

My gf is just as giving as me and i love and appreciate that so much more than i would of a woman who expected to be paid for. lol at 'immasculated'.

She is YOUR gf. Talk to me when she is your wife.

Who am I to put down what works for you and your gf?

So dont down what works for me and MY HUSBAND. :)
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
She is YOUR gf. Talk to me when she is your wife.

Who am I to put down what works for you and your gf?

So dont down what works for me and MY HUSBAND. :)
I just wont to know when grumpy is taking me out... :)
 
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needtogetaas said:
thank you...they want it both ways...they want there cake and to eat it to..enough said.

LOL Who said that I wanted it both ways.

Leave that to the confused bitchy women. My standards are clearly defined and I kept weeding through perspective date/mates till WE BOTH found what it was that we were looking for.
 
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BIKINIMOM said:
LOL Who said that I wanted it both ways.

Leave that to the confused bitchy women. My standards are clearly defined and I kept weeding through perspective date/mates till WE BOTH found what it was that we were looking for.
look we can go out ant time because I know grump is fitting the bill.lol I wish I would have a night with you guys.
 
I would never go out on a date again if the women did not pay the tab? Does that sound right? Dont women want to be treated the same? Is it wrong for a man to expect a women to pay the tab? If a women ask you out on a date should she pay the tab?
 
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needtogetaas said:
you got fucked my your wife and here friend..thats all that matters now bro...

so any way when am I going to meet you and your girl...ill bang her btw.


oh ya .. lol
 
lets kill this mother fucker.......

how dare he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

burgers and he pays!!!!!!!!

wtf is wrong with this guy

omfg i cant even eat im so pissed.....

what a pussy

he is prolly geigh

i bet so

cheap son of a bitch

where does this fucker get off

did he let u order a milkshake

you should cut his weiner off

i guess he's out
 
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needtogetaas said:
look we can go out ant time because I know grump is fitting the bill.lol I wish I would have a night with you guys.

I bet we would have A GREAT TIME!!! :)
 
jon79 said:
lets kill this mother fucker.......

how dare he!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

burgers and he pays!!!!!!!!

wtf is wrong with this guy

omfg i cant even eat im so pissed.....

what a pussy

he is prolly geigh

i bet so

cheap son of a bitch

where does this fucker get off

did he let u order a milkshake

you should cut his weiner off

i guess he's out
x10 motherfucker!





















lolol
 
lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..
 
nefertiti said:
I'm all over the place on this...I've typed out five or six responses but never posted.

A couple of points -

1) I always offer to pay part of the bill, either by word or gesture (reaching for the bill, reaching for my bag, etc), but I've never had a guy actually let me. I don't think I'd be bothered by it, though. It feels like the traditional, courteous thing to do, however, if he is the one who invited the girl out on a date. If I ever invite someone to do something with me, friend or boyfriend, I've always paid for it (like buying concert tickets, etc). On a first date, though, this would probably not make a difference to me one way or another but I might take it as a signal that he wasn't interested because he was ending things the way I'd end dinner with friends. Mulling over who owes what. But lack of a second date wouldn't be because I didn't have interest. I'd assume HE didn't.

2) for the record, I'm no feminist. I think there's a certain comfort level in traditional gender roles, and I keep up my end of that. My work is a contradiction on the surface, but it all falls in line if you know me well enough to know that I only enjoy doing the work because it allows me to take care of my family. I couldn't care less about the glass ceiling because I'll be gone and retired from finance and starting my own businesses before I ever hit it. Let the people who want to live their lives at the office and miss their kids baseball games have the big desk. :whatever:


I'd buy you an all american burger, if you don't mind shorts and a t-shirt!

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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Phaded said:
lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..
It took you this long to figure out HR makes bad decisions when it comes to men.... :worried:
 
BIKINIMOM said:
She is YOUR gf. Talk to me when she is your wife.

Who am I to put down what works for you and your gf?

So dont down what works for me and MY HUSBAND. :)

I'm not a big believer in marriage (beyuond it being a legal contract) right now but i know we've been closer and together much longer than you and your husband and besides that really isn't an issue. My point (which you already realised before you posted your non-sensical reply) was that i'd appreciate a woman way more if she didn't EXPECT to be paid for...and actually i think most men would appreciate that more if the woman had the decency.

...and yes it is a social rule because many women in society seem to hold it. Your views are nothing knew. The fact that many women think their man is 'immasculated' (as you put it) if they don't automatically pay for their date is just laughable.
 
cindylou said:
yeah. Its never happened before but if it did ; I would see it as a sign of a LOSER.

Sorry guys.

I see 90% or more of women as losers.
 
rudeboyja said:
Best line I heard from a female friend. She actually told this to her girl I was trying to play around with. "He has deep pockets but very short arms." I think any money talk can kill any sexual chemstry when you are hanging out with someone in the beginning.

Brilliant!

:FRlol:

And yes it can
 
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foreigngirl said:
dinner and drinks can be going at "Buffalo Wild Wings" too :lmao: Or maybe a pub, too. It doesnt necessarily means an exclusive restaurant IMO. But thats just me


I like going to Buffalo's. Thats a great date!
 
i think this is another shining example of why Heather is a dumbass...i can't believe you graduated from a college, with a degree in law. i barely made it out of detroit public schools & i can tell you that i'd NEVER take a chick to BK for a date. we goin' Sizzler!
 
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javaguru said:
It took you this long to figure out HR makes bad decisions when it comes to men.... :worried:

i'm new to ef.. i usually dont read chick threads on this forum seems like every thread ends in someone saying really mean things about wimminz..
 
Phaded said:
lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..
Yeah, even the waitress commented with something like, "wow, are you going somewhere after here?" LOL.

If I would have been the bitch that some people think I am, I would not have gone along with it.


One of the the things that I found the funniest is that he said "I'll get it this time. You can get it next time." What do you want to bet next time he would have decided it was time for surf and turf and a bottle of champagne? Cheap bastard! lol.
 
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Phaded said:
lmao @ rocking a bcbg at burger king god you are a good sport.. only time that seems fitting is after maybe a night out at the club.. weren't people just gawking at you like.. damn she really dressed up to go to johnny rockets.. holy shit i can't imagine how embarrassing that could have been.. anyhow if you're not a couple or married to a girl you should pay on dates every single time.. i would be too embarrassed to not pay if i was in the dating stage.. makes you look like a scrub and calls for awkwardness..
lol...well, if you are married to the girl, it doesnt matter who pays, right? It comes out of the same budget :lmao:
 
christ's sake...pics of you in the BCBG dress.

love nef's responses in this thread.

although i won't knock someone for feeling one way or attitude is better than another, there's still no way to properly justify or rationalize these 'shoulds'.

hr, the issue with this story, it seems, is that the guy was a complete douchebucket. if he had dressed well, had a good personality, made great conversation, and treated you well otherwise, but for his own reason (perhaps on some kind of principle) asked you to pay your share...you might have agreed and seen him again, no?

i'm not saying you'd feel differently on the issue, but you would probably feel differently about him.
 
heatherrae said:
Yeah, even the waitress commented with something like, "wow, are you going somewhere after here?" LOL.

If I would have been the bitch that some people think I am, I would not have gone along with it.


One of the the things that I found the funniest is that he said "I'll get it this time. You can get it next time." What do you want to bet next time he would have decided it was time for surf and turf and a bottle of champagne? Cheap bastard! lol.


You have got to be fucking kidding me
 
jackangel said:
christ's sake...pics of you in the BCBG dress.

love nef's responses in this thread.

although i won't knock someone for feeling one way or attitude is better than another, there's still no way to properly justify or rationalize these 'shoulds'.

hr, the issue with this story, it seems, is that the guy was a complete douchebucket. if he had dressed well, had a good personality, made great conversation, and treated you well otherwise, but for his own reason (perhaps on some kind of principle) asked you to pay your share...you might have agreed and seen him again, no?

i'm not saying you'd feel differently on the issue, but you would probably feel differently about him.
I would have politely paid my way, but I would have probably thought he was stingy and unromantic and not seen him again, unless he was so stellar that I just had to figure him out.

It isn't about the money. It's about treating someone well.

Had he done all the right things, such as dressed appropriately, been a good conversationalist, and paid for the date since it was his invitation, I would have asked him to come over for a home cooked meal or packed a picnic or something like that. I'm also known to give men little gifts. It isn't about the money. It is about treating me more special than one of his male buddies by not looking to split the tab when it arrives.

Old fashioned or not, I just can't really feel differently about it.
 
heatherrae said:
I wish I were kidding. LOL. What a douchebag he was.

was there dessert involve in this extravagant evening?

possible ice-cream/hotfudge/cookies?


mmm dessert!!

start baking


if not

doode is total douche!
 
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cindylou said:
I like going to Buffalo's. Thats a great date!


:worried:


You've never really been out on the town, have you?
 
Faizakafez said:
was there dessert involve in this extravagant evening?

possible ice-cream/hotfudge/cookies?


mmm dessert!!

start baking


if not

doode is total douche!
He got himself a double thick vanilla milkshake. I just ordered a burger and a diet coke and then promptly ended the date after the meal was eaten...lol.
 
Big surprise HR dates complete douche bags, given how amazing of a woman she is. Stable, emotionally intelligent, totally confident.

lol











and then













zzzzzzz
 
heatherrae said:
He got himself a double thick vanilla milkshake. I just ordered a burger and a diet coke and then promptly ended the date after the meal was eaten...lol.


just curious how old was he?
 
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