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winny how much fat did you loose

fat loss

  • None

    Votes: 23 41.1%
  • 5 or less lbs

    Votes: 15 26.8%
  • 5-10lbs

    Votes: 10 17.9%
  • 10-15lbs

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • 15-20lbs

    Votes: 3 5.4%
  • 20+lbs

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Total voters
    56
lilj888 said:
Yes i know, diet, cardio, training is the best way to loose fat, and winny isnt a miracle fat loss drug. But i have herd people loosing 8%bf on a cycle of winny alone. I do not intend to use winny alone tho. Would just like to see your guys results with using winny in your cycles.

winstrol hardnens me up with a very nice strength increase
 
i lost 3% bodyfat on winny but i was also running a pretty hardcore cutting diet/workout routine... were talking cardio 6 days a week ... 3 of those days being sprint/interval training... if you want to lose some stomach fat and look alot more ripped than choose Anavar.... for some odd reason it tends to burn those love handles fairly nicely
 
the elite addict said:
ive never heard anything like this. Winny doesnt convert to estro, so no water weight. It gives muscles a hard look and can be benifical for maintaining muscle in a calorie deficit. Thats about it.


He's right. No AAS is going to make you loose fat. Most ppl consider Winstrol a "cutting drug" and thus they diet why running it. IMOP that is what gives the impression that it is a "diet drug"
 
TheRide said:
He's right. No AAS is going to make you loose fat. Most ppl consider Winstrol a "cutting drug" and thus they diet why running it. IMOP that is what gives the impression that it is a "diet drug"


well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.
 
lilj888 said:
well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.

People don't like to talk about that in public.. It gives noobs and the non-experienced the wrong idea. ;)

I myself am wondering which does a better job at leaning you out.. Winny or Anavar..either would be ran for 6 weeks at the end of this Test/Tren cycle I'm on.
 
i hear much better reports for var - especially for visceral fat. never tried it buit will be adding it to my next cycle.

Dont like winny at all, the effect on joints severely limited my training
 
lilj888 said:
well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.

I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.
 
Tatyana said:
I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.

you made good points when you said that people eat and train better when on cycle. however, indirectly, steroids burn fat by adding lean muscle tissue. this entire process speeds metabolism. although the catch is that its hard to build lean tissue without a calorie surplus, hence the importance of tren while dieting.
 
Tatyana said:
I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.


there has been numerous posts on this forum about steroids and fat loss shown by scientific studies. The last one i can remeber was by 10001110101 which showed the fat loss properties of anavar.

ya you guys say it gives newbies the wrong idea. well i think they should know the truth and if they new the truth and more of us spoke out about it they would know that CERTAIN steroids HELP with fat loss, BUT dont suck fat out of you, and that its NOT going to shed pounds of fat, but it will aid in fat lose if u diet right and train right. I dont understand why we would cover something up like that.
 
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Unfortunately, most of the studies on fat loss and steroids is done on cattle. It’s a pretty scientific way of looking at it since it’s a controlled environment and they don’t do anything unique that might alter results.

In a study published in J Anim Sci. 2007 Feb;85(2):430-40 they measured carcasses of steers and cattle after they had been implanted with Synovex-Plus (SP), which is testosterone. This study shows that anabolic implants do not appear to have direct effects on itra-muscular lipid deposition. In other words implanting did not change the bodyfat percentage of visceral fat, the fat inside or around the muscles.Another study J Anim Sci. 1999 May;77(5):1100-4 used implanted steroids trenbolone acetate plus estradiol benzoate ot progesterone at various times and dosages over 2 months. They found no significant differences on intramuscular lipid content.

Notice in those studies that they are talking about intramuscular fat. Its been theorized by many that steroids do a bad job of stopping intramuscular or “visceral fat”. However, they do seem to help promote fat loss overall. This is done by losing fat subcutaneously, which is the fat under the skin, which you can visually see.

A study published in J Anim Sci. 1996 Aug;74(8):1770-6. compared control cattle to three other groups; those implanted with trenbalone acetate, implanted with testosterone propionate +20 mg of estradiol benzoate, or both implants. This study found that groups all gained weight and lost fat(were leaner cows). Interesting enough they found the cows that had been implanted with 200 mg trenbolone acetate only, were the leanest.

Another study published in J Anim Sci. 1987 May;64(5):1428-33 showed that suggest that trenbolone acetate is able to depress lipogenesis only when not competing with the effects of circulating estradiol. This means that it stops fat from forming directly, when estrogen isn’t circulating. This supports the previous study, that when trenabolone is taken by itself it has better fat burning properties. We know from the other studies it doesn’t change visceral fat around the organs or inside the muscles. Steroids seem to have the ability to instead burn the subcutaneous fat and not the internal fat.
 
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