winny how much fat did you loose

[lilj888]

Yes i know, diet, cardio, training is the best way to loose fat, and winny isnt a miracle fat loss drug. But i have herd people loosing 8%bf on a cycle of winny alone. I do not intend to use winny alone tho. Would just like to see your guys results with using winny in your cycles.

 

[the elite addict]

ive never heard anything like this. Winny doesnt convert to estro, so no water weight. It gives muscles a hard look and can be benifical for maintaining muscle in a calorie deficit. Thats about it.

 

[the elite addict]

just pin already. if you plan on making consistant, lasting gains on orals only, forget about it. They are also much more harsh on the body. especially !7a

 

[goku_kakarot77]

winny did give my muscles denser look , more viens, massive strenght, but best use when bf around 10%

 

[lilj888]

just pin already. if you plan on making consistant, lasting gains on orals only, forget about it. They are also much more harsh on the body. especially !7a

well i got to wait, another 4 weeks time on = time off, and im taking test e and winny next cycle

 

[whitemahon]

Yes i know, diet, cardio, training is the best way to loose fat, and winny isnt a miracle fat loss drug. But i have herd people loosing 8%bf on a cycle of winny alone. I do not intend to use winny alone tho. Would just like to see your guys results with using winny in your cycles.

Winny isn't a fat loss drug at all bro.

 

[timtim]

Winny isn't a fat loss drug at all bro.

+ 1. whoever lost 8%T bf on winstrol probably had a kick ass diet and cardio routine going.

 

[DannoMight]

i couldn't tell you since everytime i took winny i was dieting.

 

[lartinos]

use tren instead for this reason, tren will lean you out. If you diet with tren the results are amazing....

 

[pump1967]

use tren instead for this reason, tren will lean you out. If you diet with tren the results are amazing....

tren and winny!

 

[ALIN]

Yes i know, diet, cardio, training is the best way to loose fat, and winny isnt a miracle fat loss drug. But i have herd people loosing 8%bf on a cycle of winny alone. I do not intend to use winny alone tho. Would just like to see your guys results with using winny in your cycles.

winstrol hardnens me up with a very nice strength increase

 

[joewitagto]

i lost 3% bodyfat on winny but i was also running a pretty hardcore cutting diet/workout routine... were talking cardio 6 days a week ... 3 of those days being sprint/interval training... if you want to lose some stomach fat and look alot more ripped than choose Anavar.... for some odd reason it tends to burn those love handles fairly nicely

 

[TheRide]

ive never heard anything like this. Winny doesnt convert to estro, so no water weight. It gives muscles a hard look and can be benifical for maintaining muscle in a calorie deficit. Thats about it.

He's right. No AAS is going to make you loose fat. Most ppl consider Winstrol a "cutting drug" and thus they diet why running it. IMOP that is what gives the impression that it is a "diet drug"

 

[lilj888]

He's right. No AAS is going to make you loose fat. Most ppl consider Winstrol a "cutting drug" and thus they diet why running it. IMOP that is what gives the impression that it is a "diet drug"

well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.

 

[Burpees]

well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.

People don't like to talk about that in public.. It gives noobs and the non-experienced the wrong idea.

I myself am wondering which does a better job at leaning you out.. Winny or Anavar..either would be ran for 6 weeks at the end of this Test/Tren cycle I'm on.

 

[cobracock1979]

i hear much better reports for var - especially for visceral fat. never tried it buit will be adding it to my next cycle.

Dont like winny at all, the effect on joints severely limited my training

 

[Tatyana]

well alot of you guys say that no steroid will make you loose fat. But its been proven that certain steroids have fat loss properties like anavar. Im not saying winny does, but some do. Winny is good for a calorie deficient diet.

I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.

 

[JLowe02]

I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.

you made good points when you said that people eat and train better when on cycle. however, indirectly, steroids burn fat by adding lean muscle tissue. this entire process speeds metabolism. although the catch is that its hard to build lean tissue without a calorie surplus, hence the importance of tren while dieting.

 

[lilj888]

I would love to see any article or paper related to this comment in bold.

I do think that there is confusion about certain steroid being for cutting or losing weight.

I think there are a number of factors that have lead to this internet BBing myth

1. When on cycle, most lads make more of an effort with diet and training = better results

2. People use certain steroids when they are dieting or in competition prepartion, therefore the fat loss becomes associated with the steroid.

3. Most people do not keep accurate records of their body composition, they go by 'eye' which can be notoriously inaccurate, or recall how they thought the cycle went from memory, which can also be highly inaccurate.

4. A lot of you are in your twenties, and when you are training, eating better and on cycle, it is fairly easy to make progress.

I do have concerns about threads like this, as someone mentioned, it gives newbies, young ones and women the wrong idea.

There currently a thread in the women's forum related to this, a trainer told a woman to take winny as it 'sucks the fat out'.

I am not entirely opposed to women using steroids, but taking male hormones just to aid in dieting is sheer madness.

there has been numerous posts on this forum about steroids and fat loss shown by scientific studies. The last one i can remeber was by 10001110101 which showed the fat loss properties of anavar.

ya you guys say it gives newbies the wrong idea. well i think they should know the truth and if they new the truth and more of us spoke out about it they would know that CERTAIN steroids HELP with fat loss, BUT dont suck fat out of you, and that its NOT going to shed pounds of fat, but it will aid in fat lose if u diet right and train right. I dont understand why we would cover something up like that.

 

[lilj888]

Unfortunately, most of the studies on fat loss and steroids is done on cattle. It’s a pretty scientific way of looking at it since it’s a controlled environment and they don’t do anything unique that might alter results.

In a study published in J Anim Sci. 2007 Feb;85(2):430-40 they measured carcasses of steers and cattle after they had been implanted with Synovex-Plus (SP), which is testosterone. This study shows that anabolic implants do not appear to have direct effects on itra-muscular lipid deposition. In other words implanting did not change the bodyfat percentage of visceral fat, the fat inside or around the muscles.Another study J Anim Sci. 1999 May;77(5):1100-4 used implanted steroids trenbolone acetate plus estradiol benzoate ot progesterone at various times and dosages over 2 months. They found no significant differences on intramuscular lipid content.

Notice in those studies that they are talking about intramuscular fat. Its been theorized by many that steroids do a bad job of stopping intramuscular or “visceral fat”. However, they do seem to help promote fat loss overall. This is done by losing fat subcutaneously, which is the fat under the skin, which you can visually see.

A study published in J Anim Sci. 1996 Aug;74(8):1770-6. compared control cattle to three other groups; those implanted with trenbalone acetate, implanted with testosterone propionate +20 mg of estradiol benzoate, or both implants. This study found that groups all gained weight and lost fat(were leaner cows). Interesting enough they found the cows that had been implanted with 200 mg trenbolone acetate only, were the leanest.

Another study published in J Anim Sci. 1987 May;64(5):1428-33 showed that suggest that trenbolone acetate is able to depress lipogenesis only when not competing with the effects of circulating estradiol. This means that it stops fat from forming directly, when estrogen isn’t circulating. This supports the previous study, that when trenabolone is taken by itself it has better fat burning properties. We know from the other studies it doesn’t change visceral fat around the organs or inside the muscles. Steroids seem to have the ability to instead burn the subcutaneous fat and not the internal fat.

 

[Tatyana]

Thank you.

That is the sort of thing I wanted to see.

It looks like tren is the drug of choice for cows

Interesting, steroid implants have been banned in the EU since 1988, and we don't import US beef either.

 

[whitemahon]

Thank you.

It looks like tren is the drug of choice for cows

Snap!

 

[OMEGA]

mooo

 

[jroc86]

If your already in decent shape (ie <12%, showing abs + veins etc) then winny will shred you to fuck ... especially if diet is in check. Not to mention many people experience a great strength increase. But be wary of your hairline and lipid profiles.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

winny is nice but my shoulders and knees and wrists dont like it

peace

 

[nickidrivein]

I have a body fat percentage of 19 percent and weigh 165 and was wondering how should i take cytomel and clenbuterol and winstrol should i take them all at once or split them up also im looking to burn fat and get down to 130lbs and have body fat percentage of 9 percent.

Please help me.

 

[Myfortress]

winny did give my muscles denser look , more viens, massive strenght, but best use when bf around 10%

yo bro im at 19 percent should i hold up on the stanozlol oral and diet clean and work out hard to get down to 10 percent

 

[tdidd42]

i have taken winny cycles only before. and it does not burn fat, diet and cardio burns fat. it will give you lean gains. i can say i have lost just as much body fat on test and deca as i have on winny. BC OF MY DIET

 

[C.K.]

Didnt lose a pound of fat or drop of water at 100 mgs a day... tren all the fucking way!

 

[BlackIron220]

won't really lean u out unless u run some tren with it. crazy combo.... i did get hard as hell on winny but not really leaner

 

[usudno]

Gained 10lbs on winny.. Used it to bulk . <---1st cycle lol. Actually added fat too. Imagine that.... Diet does play a big part lol. Winny taught me one thing... Being strong and hard HURTS LIKE A Summabitch. My shoulders were dry as can be.

 

[SaeedK]

Thats quite interesting usudno ..... To have winstrol in a only cycle as a bulk , is quite new to me ..

Saeed.K

 

[Fatboy1984]

I lost about 10 pounds using test p/ tren/ winny and a strict diet and cardio. Tren makes me vascular.. but for some reason once i threw in the winny my veins really started to bulge out. Winny added crazy vascularity to me. Ill use it again. But you dont just loose fat if you take winny. Its all about diet.

 

[usudno]

saeed, Yeah.. it was my first cycle and to be honest if i wasn't on winny i probably would have gained much more fat. I was vascular as all hell to . I would never do it again.. winny absolutly killed my shoulders!! No more winny. I'm loving this var/tbol combo tho. +1 more lb. I weigh every morning right when i wake up. Same scale everymorning. I'm up 7lbs in 16days . Its all been solid too.

 

[SaeedK]

usudno thats god broo

 

[BlackIron220]

i ws impatient and ran winny around 15% bf. still made me more vascular. and quite hard too! no fat loss from it really. wish i ran tren with it, lol....havent done var yet so i cant compare the 2

 

[usudno]

Blackiron... how were the joints on winny? I had a hard time washing my back the last week... my shoulders were dry as all hell (good thing the wifey takes care of me )

 

[BlackIron220]

i got a little discomfort on winny. i was on about 100mg/ed. kinda got hard to lift cause i was so tight. pumps were dry as hell. i like winny. need to try var tho

 

[ryan04]

Any non aromatizing steroid is gonna make you look harder and more vascular if u have low b.f., but it is not going 2 lower the b.f. in and of itself....that is done thru diet and cardio.
I would imagine anyone that lost 8% b.f. off a winny cycle probably had pretty high b.f. to begin with and was either not in the greatest shape or drastically improved/increased their workout routine during the cycle.
No matter what the case, something else was changed or altered (diet/workout) that caused those changes besides just taking some winny

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

love winny

 

[Sliding_Filament]

Diet and winny go together. I lose 5 or more lbs when I use it. Keeps you strong in the gym, and really dries you out. Only thing I dislike is the joint stiffness.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Winny doesnt cause u to lose fat. It hardens the muscle showing more striation n definition. Thats all placebo... Ur losing weight from dieting n training. Should also make u vascular as fuck.... U need to use eca, clen, t3, tren,hgh...for weight lose... Personally, an otc fat burner with some Winny n cardio should peel fat off u... Drink 2.5-3 gallons of water a day. Should be good...

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[johnnyboy3689282]

Winny did make me hard as fuck for show last year...and would.only use for pre contest...

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[moya]

i agree that winny wont really make you lose fat... but i would be damned to say no AAS promotes fat loss... tren no doubt... and ive been on primo now on my powerlifer oriented diet and im losing a shitload of fat with my calories in a surplus... shit is just unreal...